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Jun 20, 2013 8:48 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Jun 20, 2013 10:45 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Jun 21, 2013 12:13 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
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My husband, Dean, went to the Univ. of IL for aviation and has been flying since the Summer of 1977 (35 years). He flew for an FBO (fixed base operator) at Champaign/Urbana, IL, then moved to Indianapolis, IN and flew charters for another company. Then....

He didn't get an airline job until Oct. 1986, when he moved to northern KY to fly for Comair. They were based here in northern Ky, which is where the Cincinnati/Northern KY International Airport is located at (CVG). He had 26 years at Comair.

Besides being in the Air Force (non flying position due to having to wear glasses or contacts), flying is all he's ever done. He turns 61 next Thursday and according to the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration), pilots can only fly commercially til the age of 65. To get another airline job, he would have to commute to the airline base or we would have to move to it. In the airline business, pilots have to start at the bottom and work their way up, no matter how long they've been flying (for an airline or how many hours they have). He doesn't want to start over, become a first officer again and have to stop in 4 years. He's been a captain since 1990.

I don't really feel and think that Comair had to close, but that's another story.

We don't want to move. I have most of my family here in the greater Cincinnati area, with the exception of a sister in Boulder, CO and a brother in Zapata, TX.

I met Dean June 22, 1996 and we got married Oct. 1, 1996! Lovey dubby Hurray! Thumbs up
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Jun 21, 2013 7:08 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
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Jun 21, 2013 7:15 AM CST
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Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Marilyn: I know it must be hard when your DH had been flying for Comair for 26 years to have them go out of business. Sad I's so unfortunate and it has happened to so many companies over the past 20 years! I worked in the mortgage department at a federal S&L that shut down years ago. I know that bank was not in financial trouble but it was at the time when so many banks were shutting their doors or being taken over by other banks (the same thing happened to another savings and loan where my mom worked) and I've seen it happen to many businesses over the years. So many small companies and mom and pop businesses have gone under because the mega companies come in and take over. At the bank where I worked the mortages were all sold off to other companies, and another bank took over the other accounts. Some of my co-workers hoped to transfer to the "other" bank but everyone was told they would have to submit an employment application (just like when seeking any job) to be considered and the few who were hired did not start in the same position they'd been in for years or anywhere near their old salary! I'd only been with the S&L for 5 1/2 years but I felt so sorry for some of my co-workers who'd been there for 20 years or more. I'd planned on taking some time off before looking for another job but haven't ever gone back to work. I've always said things happen for a reason and at the time my dear mother in law was having the beginnings of dementia and moved to assisted living so I was blessed to be able to spend the last years of her life with her and then my own mother began having health issues so I was able to travel back and forth to south Fla. every couple of weeks to spend time with her before she passed.

I know it must be difficult for your husband when aviation jobs are scarce right now ... I hope something comes along soon. If there are any local flight schools nearby maybe he could inquire to see if they need flight instructors. I'd think with his experience they'd jump at the chance to get him! The salary probably wouldn't be anywhere near what he made as a pilot for the airlines but he'd be able to work at what he loves - flying. Yes, pilots can only fly commercially until the age of 65 and then it's mandatory retirement and I know it would be very hard to start over just to have to retire in a couple of years. He will be eligible for social security next year which is a good thing but I bet he wishes he could be flying.

Sounds like y'all had a short courtship if you met in June and got married in October and this year you will be celebrating Lovey dubby 17 years ... Congratulations! : And, Hurray! Happy Birthday to your husband too!
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Jun 21, 2013 7:19 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Lovey dubby
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Jun 21, 2013 7:20 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Ok .. I know I tend to get off-topic quite often and talk and talk Smiling so I thought I'd get the thread back on track with pictures of our birdie friends. I only got two photo's while we were out on the boat yesterday. One was an Osprey trying to fish for lunch but apparently it was too close to where small birds were nesting and a little bird was trying to chase the Osprey away from the area and a juvenile Ibis of some sort that was walking along the shoreline:
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And, in the backyard ... a Cardinal & Mockingbird:
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Jun 21, 2013 7:21 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Hurray! Hurray!
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Jun 21, 2013 9:28 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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mcash70 said:Rita, probably a younger one! Glare Hilarious!


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Jun 21, 2013 10:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Rita: I wonder if your House Wrens are like the Carolina Wrens we see down here? A friend told me they build many *dummy* nests before selecting the preferred home and I've seen them do this at our old house. I had two Purple Martin houses (the condo type with many openings) and the Wrens would build nests in different compartments but only ended up occupying one. They've been doing this for quite a few years.

The following information is for the Carolina Wren. I've copied and pasted this from http://www.allaboutbirds.org/g...


Nesting Facts

Clutch Size
3–7 eggs
Number of Broods
1-3 broods
Egg Length
0.7–0.8 in
1.7–2.1 cm
Egg Width
0.6–0.6 in
1.4–1.6 cm
Incubation Period
12–16 days
Nestling Period
10–16 days
Egg Description
White, cream, or pinkish white, with fine rusty-brown spots.
Condition at Hatching
Eyes closed, with pale grayish down.
Nest Description

Male and female Carolina Wrens build their nests together. One member of the pair may stay at the site while the other gathers material. The first nest can take a week or more to build, but later ones take shape in as few as 4 days. The bulky nest is cup-shaped, usually domed, with a side entrance and often a woven extension like a porch or entrance ramp. It's loosely constructed of a great variety of materials such as bark strips, dried grasses, dead leaves, pine needles, hair, feathers, straw, shed snakeskin, paper, plastic, or string). The female lines the nest's inner bowl and may add nest material after incubation has begun. Nests may range from 3 to 9 inches long and 3 to 6 inches wide.

Nest Placement


Cavity
Carolina Wrens nest in open cavities 3–6 feet off the ground, in trees, overhangs and stumps. The first nest is sometimes built on vegetation-shaded ground. Near homes, they're versatile nesters, making use of discarded flowerpots, mailboxes, propane-tank covers, and a variety of other items. Their nests have even been found in old coat pockets and boots. Males often build multiple nests before the pair makes a final selection.
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Jun 21, 2013 10:08 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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They also have a listing with information about House Wrens: http://www.allaboutbirds.org/g...
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Jun 21, 2013 10:28 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Yes, the House Wrens do build dummy nests, at least the male does. Many half hearted efforts. But I can tell when he really has picked out a nestbox because much more work done on that one. And then the female joins him and puts in the finishing touches. And the female is going in and out of that backyard box with nesting material. Meanwhile someone is feeding the babies in the front that have not fledged. I don't believe it is the same female as is nesting in the back. I just can't see how she could manage feeding those almost ready to fledge babies and have time to build in the backyard box.
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Jun 21, 2013 10:33 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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That's very interesting. If it is the same female ... she's one busy mama!!

I found this to be very interesting reading (copied and pasted from the allaboutbirds.com site):

Male House Wrens start building several nests at once in hopes of persuading a female to mate with him. Pairs typically break up by the end of each nesting season and choose new partners the next year. House Wrens are aggressive. Single males sometimes compete for females even after a pair has begun nesting. In about half of these contests the outsider succeeds in displacing his rival, at which point he usually discards any existing eggs or nestlings and begins a new family with the female.
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Jun 21, 2013 10:41 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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The male is very territorial. He fights with any other males. But I guess he thinks extra women are a good thing. Hilarious!
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Jun 21, 2013 11:06 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Some birds are like that! Green Grin!
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~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Jun 21, 2013 11:09 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
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Jun 21, 2013 11:10 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Ay-yup, even some of the "unfeathered" birds are like that. Whistling
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Jun 21, 2013 11:53 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
Too true, Debra, too true.
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Jun 21, 2013 2:29 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Blue Jay with his breakfast worm:
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Juvenile Mockingbird screaming to be fed and mama perched above watching and expecting baby to be more independent:
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~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Jun 21, 2013 2:43 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
Kids! always wanting your attention! Hilarious! Hilarious!

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