Thank you Donna, both are favorites of mine too! I have to say when I get old and can't garden anymore of all my intro's Feel the Thunder is the one I will grow til I drop.
I know Curt sold out of Crintonic Painted Desert when it intro'd. I didn't even get it until several years later and from a different grower. As long as it's been here I do notice it seems to be slower to increase.
Deryll, no, neither The Wonder Emporium or Beyond Origami hang up. The petals on Beyond Origami can stand, with the pleating, sometimes extreme pleating which has an extra fold, and relief the midrib tissue is very thick. Add in cristation on the reverse of the petal and the petals can not recurve so remain in an upright or semi upright position. Neither of them "hang up" and fail to open because of tangled edges, which is what hang up normally refers to. Did you mean something different?