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Name: Peggy
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Jun 24, 2014 4:43 AM CST
I have seen it in trades swaps and sales and looked it up but the description is vague .

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Name: Gerry Donahue
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profesora
Jun 24, 2014 4:53 AM CST
A liner is a plant that comes in a pot 1" x 1".
A hosta liner is a tissue culture, a clone, that is less than one year old. These take great care and take much longer to mature. The first winter, they may not freeze. I put mine, sometimes just under 1,000 of them, in a cold greenhouse where the temperature will not drop under 40°.

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Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jun 24, 2014 6:35 PM CST
Oh, I thought they needed a cold spell. 40 days of below 40? I bought some liners when I first started and they went straight into the ground, we do get down to 20° a few times usually but last year we got down to 7°! My hostas are much larger now and they loved it. Here is a pic of some liners I got from Yahoo Groups a few years ago. They are tissue culture.


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Name: Gerry Donahue
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Jun 24, 2014 7:08 PM CST
They do go dormant at 40° and they stay dormant until the temperature hit over 50°.

I would say that you were lucky that winter, Susan.
Name: Rose
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Rose1656
Jun 24, 2014 7:36 PM CST
I've purchased a LOT of liners from the same coop, for several years. I potted them up the first year and planted them (pot and all) in the ground. Mine did very well, but you do have to be patient. I really like the cost of these plants and they're not really hard to raise from that size.
Here's a few of the liners that I've grown...

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Name: Gerry Donahue
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profesora
Jun 24, 2014 7:47 PM CST
I have been buying TC from QandZ and Shady Oaks since 1999, and there were some years that many died before I learned that they m ay not freeze that first year.

Now I have a routine, and my hostas live and grow well. Most years I buy just under 1,000 liners, and this years was no exception.

I have also been buying TC heucheras, and soon I will be selling them also.

Rose, did you buy TC hostas this year?
Name: Catherine
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Cat
Jun 24, 2014 7:49 PM CST
@Rose1656 Can you give an average cost you have paid for them that size?
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Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jun 24, 2014 8:48 PM CST
Here are mine. I put all them into a raised nursery bed and they stayed outside the whole time, they only problem I have is when they do not get a good cold spell they die. I search for hostas that are 'Low Chill' so they will make due with a shorter cold spell.



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Cat
Jun 24, 2014 8:56 PM CST
Susan, they look great! I am getting ready to make a new Hosta bed. Need to decide what I want to plant.
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CarolineScott
Jun 25, 2014 4:16 AM CST
Thanks for the info here especially that Hostas go dormant below 50ºF
That helps me understand Hosta growing as they always come up so late.
Now I will mark them and wait for them to show.
Name: Rose
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Rose1656
Jun 25, 2014 4:29 AM CST
I have paid as low as $2.49 for them. The newer varieties are more expensive, but Sum and Substance, June and other oldies but goodies are very affordable. The co-op is lacking interest this year so I haven't been able to get any bargains. But, I did get many varieties over the years to add to my collection. And, my collection is well over 700 varieties! I would not have been able to build this collection of I'd paid retail prices for them all!

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virginiarose
Jun 25, 2014 7:48 AM CST
Cat, I got a lot of one year plants from Countryboys Garden, they were the same price as liners at the time so I got 60 and only actually got 8 liners from yahoo groups, they shipped my coneflowers at the end of October and they all died. So no more co-ops for me, unless I get to choose ship time.

@Rose1656
Me too, I love the old reliable's and sometimes add a second or third one, like June.
Susan

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Name: Catherine
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Cat
Jun 25, 2014 8:04 AM CST
Wow Rose that's a nice collection!
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Name: Gerry Donahue
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profesora
Jun 25, 2014 11:36 AM CST
I have paid as low as $.99 per liner, but most are over $2.
I have many that I have paid a lot more, and those I do not sell because most people want cheap hostas.
I paid $25 for Royal Mouse Ears and Sparkle. I sell them for $50. I sold a very mature RME to a ATP member for $30, and she thought it sound be a clump.
Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jun 25, 2014 12:56 PM CST
I am guilty of buying cheap hostas. Some do not like the heat.
I also want to stress the importance of reputable dealers because of HVX.
I never buy hosta from big box stores.
Susan

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Name: Rose
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Rose1656
Jun 25, 2014 5:26 PM CST
I think the most expensive liner I've bought was Sir Richard. I paid $17.00 for it and it's doing great. Most were usually less than $5.00.

I found a picture of Sir Richard...really like this one! I need to take a picture of this one for my records. This one is from 2 years ago.
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Jun 25, 2014 6:03 PM CST
Good info on the Hosta Liners. Thank you Rose and Susan for sharing the info. I now know why my liners died years ago when I went in on a co-op.

OT.....I have had such bad luck with Heucheras that I will not pay retail more than 5.00 for them. They are too iffy in my gardens. I have about 20 that have survived a few years but I have killed 50+.
Name: Gerry Donahue
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profesora
Jun 25, 2014 7:47 PM CST
Here is my list of

Liners bought in 2014, both hosta and heuchera.

Hostas, 12 liners unless indicated
Cameo
Cat's Eye
Dragon Tails
Hacksaw
Hideout, 24
Imp
Little Devil
Teeny-weeny Bikini
Baby Booties
Cracker Crumbs
Fall Dazzler
Miss Linda Smith
Teaspoon
Victory, 36
Blackjack
Checkered Cab
Denim Jacket
Gemstone
Green Mouse Ears
Indigo
Strawberry Yogurt
Winter Snow
Lakeside Cupcake
Moonstruck
Woodland Elf, 24
Blue Mammoth
Fire Island
Sagae, 24
Stained Glass, 24
Curly Fries, 24
Con Te Partiro
Marilyn Monroe
Waving Winds

Heuchera, 9 liners unless indicated
Caramel, 18
Encore
Kassandra
Milky Way
Miracle, 18
Red Expo
Marvelous Marble, 20
Delta Dawn, 5
Plum Pudding, 5
Tiramisu, 5
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Name: Gerry Donahue
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Jun 26, 2014 6:57 PM CST

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This is how the liners arrive.

Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jun 26, 2014 7:51 PM CST
Very nice. Thumbs up
Susan

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