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Sep 20, 2014 5:40 PM CST
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Sep 20, 2014 5:53 PM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
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I agree
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
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Sep 20, 2014 6:53 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Most excellent!!!! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2014 7:01 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Okay, other things...let's see. I found out that plant I thought might be milkweed at 60 mph but sort of looked like Joe Pye Weed actually is Joe Pye Weed. I looked at some up close and checked the plant database and it's Joe Pye Weed. Oddly enough, the butterflies weren't really on it. I saw two butterflies I couldn't photograph. There was a Pipevine ST also flying about 60 mph and a little sulphur that would not stop. It sort of reminded me of the Barred Sulphurs here in Florida but it was a little different.

The community center is located right by the middle and high schools, but they have this nice little field they mow around that had lots of wildflowers. I'm so easy to amuse. Give me a good field of weeds and just turn me loose! I had to be careful though because some of those plants had big thorns on them! Let's just say I was picking briars out of my arm and I was bleeding. But if you aren't willing to bleed for butterflies, why are you on this forum? Hilarious! Still, Dad was shaking his head at me. But I'm not the woodturner who had a chainsaw accident and who broke his finger when a piece of wood fell on him! So he has no room to talk. I did go wash up in the ladies' room; I think I'll be fine. My allergies are bothering me way worse than a scratch on my arm.

Okay, so let's get to the pictures. First off, I did find some milkweed, but it's gone to seed! They were stalks with no leaves! Now you may think, "Melanie, how did you know it was milkweed if it was just seed pods?" Well, milkweed seed pods seem to have a particular shape even in different species. These were like, super giant milkweed pods to me. But the real giveaway was the milkweed bugs all over the seed pods. They eat the seeds. I always tell people if they don't want the milkweed bugs, cut off the seed pods. It won't eliminate them totally, but it will help. And in case you're curious, I totally took a bunch of seedpods and put them in my car! What, you thought I would let that opportunity pass me by? Not a chance! In the third picture, I found what I think was a seedling. I pulled a leaf off and you can see the milky residue that came out. Let's just hope this species grows in Florida! I saw at least three different Monarchs today. I pointed them south and told them to get going! I hope they were just fueling up for the trip.

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I think this is an Eastern Tailed Blue. But real raggedy.

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More of that suspected Great Spangled Fritillary. I'm having butterfly envy. I know I should appreciate the Fritillaries I have, but I like the other ones, too! Technically, Florida gets the Gulf Fritillary, which I see all the time, and the Variegated Fritillary, which I've only seen a few times. FYI, Catmint posted a Variegated Fritillary earlier. Nice! One of the times I saw a Variegated Frit was at Grandma's house in WV. BAMONA even said it was a very early record for that species (it was mid-April). So I see a Great Spangled Frit (love the name) and I'm all, "Oooh. Ahhh."

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There were a ton of Skippers but I think I got at least a couple different kinds. I'm going to send all my pics to BAMONA to see what they think. I kind of want to know what host plants these skippers use. Some of the males were clearly harassing the females, but I didn't see any egg laying. But it made me wonder if their host plant was nearby.

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I think this is also an Eastern Tailed Blue. I don't think the other Blues have those orange spots at the bottom.

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And here's a Monarch all by herself. Looks like something tried to take a couple bites out of her, but she's a fighter. She can make it to Mexico; I know it!

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Sep 20, 2014 7:32 PM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
Echinacea Azaleas Forum moderator Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Nice, Mellie. We get mostly the Great Spangled and Variegated Fritillaries here--very rare to see a Gulf Frit. That would be really cool to go to other parts of the country and observe different butterfly species!

I just discovered that the Sedum I got last week at a swap is a host plant for the Variegated Fritillary, plus I have two other plants that are hosts for it: Phaseolus vulgaris and Mayapple. So I guess that's why I see them in my yard sometimes!

The skippers and cabbage whites are pretty amazing to watch--they are constantly swirling in circles around each other, and trying to hop onto each other on various flowers. I of course avert my eyes modestly. Whistling Today I tried to capture 3 of the Cabbage Whites dancing around each other, but they were just too quick for my camera!
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
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Sep 20, 2014 7:38 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
I'm enjoying your road trip almost as much as you are Melanie. Thanks for being our tour guide. Hilarious! I just adore that cute little skipper in the 3rd photo of the skippers! Lovey dubby
Great Spangled frits are cool aren't they? That sure looks like one to me. Here's a link I found with some fantastic photos for helping ID.
http://www.naba.org/chapters/n...
And they have this cool side by side comparison feature! Check out the Commas & Question Marks and get a load of the Baltimore Checkerspot! What a butterfly! It's chrysalis is totally WILD!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2014 7:43 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Huh, I just had to look up the host plants for the Variegated Fritillary. I only knew of passion vine and violets. That's interesting that it has such a wide variety of host plants. You think I'd see more of them! I've only ever spotted one in the south part of my county, but my boss at MOSI said she used to gather them in the field adjacent to the museum where the passion vine grows naturally.
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Sep 20, 2014 7:52 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Thanks, Ann! I saw a Great Spangled Frit in WV years ago on Grandma's neighbor's butterfly bush. I had it confirmed by BAMONA. Grandma gets tons of Meadow Fritillaries because she has their host plant, clover, all over the place. But they are noticeably smaller than the Great Spangled Frit. I had to have BAMONA confirm those, too because I had no clue.

I forgot NABA had that side-by-side thing. I need to use that more often. I would love to see any stage of that Baltimore Checkerspot. That one is super cool! Most people seem to have the view that you have to go to the tropics to see the really beautiful, exotic butterflies, but there are so many interesting examples anywhere in the world (except perhaps Antarctica). I always get a kick out of people at the museum who can't believe our chrysalises are real and alive. I'm like, "Why would we keep a bunch of dead ones?" Even my new trainee, Leda, can't believe the detail on some, like the Monarch. The little gold touches just amaze her.
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Sep 20, 2014 8:02 PM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
Echinacea Azaleas Forum moderator Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Ann, what a cool site! I had to bookmark it of course! Smiling Wish they had one like that for Maryland species.
Reminds me that I also saw a Pearl Crescent today near the Fritillary, but he flew away before I could get a photo of him! Would love to see a Baltimore Checkerspot someday.

Mellie, I've been wanting passiflora. Hopefully someday soon!
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
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Sep 20, 2014 8:33 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Catmint20906 said:Ann, what a cool site! I had to bookmark it of course! Smiling Wish they had one like that for Maryland species.
Reminds me that I also saw a Pearl Crescent today near the Fritillary, but he flew away before I could get a photo of him! Would love to see a Baltimore Checkerspot someday.

Mellie, I've been wanting passiflora. Hopefully someday soon!



YVW Cat. I guess you could use the ones for states that border you. They do have a club for Maryland but they don't have a website. Sad
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2014 8:40 PM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
Echinacea Azaleas Forum moderator Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thanks, Ann. We don't have an active nature/wildlife group either, as far as I know. Efforts are fragmented. Sad It's sad.
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
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Sep 20, 2014 8:41 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
I agree
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2014 8:45 PM CST
Thread OP
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
@Catmint20906 Almost got a pic of a couple of Cabbage Whites in motion
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Sep 20, 2014 8:56 PM CST
Thread OP
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
From Sept '07 - White in motion:
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Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Sep 20, 2014 8:59 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Dang, Jack. I thought the first picture was pretty good and you were selling yourself short. But that second one is amazing! How did you even get that?
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Sep 20, 2014 9:01 PM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
Echinacea Azaleas Forum moderator Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thanks, Jack! Great photos! Smiling I can just see him lasering in on her and getting ready to zoom down! Smiling
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
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Sep 20, 2014 9:05 PM CST
Thread OP
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Right place at the right time w/ the right camera. Camera was a Z740 from Kodak w/ an exposure time of 1/1000th sec.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Sep 21, 2014 4:41 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
That's a shot to remember though. Thumbs up
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 21, 2014 5:42 AM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
Goodness. The mind boggles as to how you did that Jack.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Sep 21, 2014 6:05 AM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
Echinacea Azaleas Forum moderator Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I think I need to put a new camera on my Christmas wish list...
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso

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