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Mar 30, 2010 8:23 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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I think push button shifting went out of style,maybe too many tech problems.
I think there are new cars that have it.
I am not interested in anything but my car a CRV 2004 with less than 30,000. miles on it.
Most likely my last car.Thats why I bought a Honda
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Mar 30, 2010 8:28 AM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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I have a 1999 Toyota. Those things never die, hopefully.
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Mar 30, 2010 8:34 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
good thing it wasnt built recently
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Mar 30, 2010 10:32 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
You know. I had my drivers training at the police academy, but they always trained us if you go into a slide, put the car in neutral. My first thought if the gas pedal stuck would have been to put the car in neutral, then once you've stopped turn off the key to keep the engine from revving. I don't know why people aren't thinking of that. Of course they may not be trained to drive in icy conditions, so that's not a thought.

It's a horrible thing to have happened. I'm sure a lot of people that have Toyotas are scared out of their wits. And now some man that is in prison for running into the back of another car, and killing it's occupants back in the 90s is claiming that is what happened, so if that's true the problem may have been arond longer than first believed, and it's possible the older Toyotas are affected also.

So if anyone ever has their gas pedal stick, put that car in neutral. Don't turn off the key until you're almost completely to a stop or your steering lock might come on. Modern engines normally can't over rev, anyway.
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Mar 30, 2010 10:44 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
And there are about 100 women who stepped forward to get covered and bought out by Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullocks husband.
The would have had more evidence than his word he wasnt culpable.I'd be surprised if he hadnt been drinking.
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Mar 30, 2010 10:46 AM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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No, they found no evidence of drugs or alcohol. I'll have to look up the article.
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Mar 30, 2010 11:03 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Here's a blog on it. I know they found during the forensics that the gas pedal was stuck, but they attributed that to the aftermath of the crash.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index...
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Mar 30, 2010 11:08 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
hmmmmm
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Mar 30, 2010 11:13 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

But there's got to be more to it, if they convicted the man of manslaughter and sentenced him to eight years, I think it was, if he did actually accidentally push the accelerator instead of the brake. The sentence indicates to me there was more to it.
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Mar 30, 2010 11:56 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
If only the justice system was as thorow as it is on the detective programs on TV.
Not to cast aspersions on you Polly. But there are manipulations of the law that get guilty people off. Ever since O J I am cynical on the subject.
He's in jail now so his karma caught up with him, but the Goldman family will never get closure.
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Apr 14, 2010 9:51 AM CST
Name: Steve
Azle, TX (DFW area)
What wonderful pictures everyone! Here are some of my OT's in mid-June of last year. Lots of stalks now but nothing really close to flowering yet.

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Picture is myself and neighbor Mette planting bulbs at her house (neighbors') last fall.
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Apr 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Hey Steve, glad you found us here. Your lilies look great.
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Apr 14, 2010 2:34 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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Passing the gardening bug along to the youth is something to be proud of Steve. Does she have her own lilies over there now? Very sweet indeed.
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Apr 14, 2010 2:39 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Lovely little girl, Steve. Is her name Lily? I told my daughter Michelle It's a good thing she wasn't born in the 90s or I would have named her Iris for sure. She's glad.
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Apr 15, 2010 2:47 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Nise mix of DL's and Lilium.
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Apr 30, 2010 6:03 AM CST
Name: Steve
Azle, TX (DFW area)
Thanks all Smiling Naww but maybe her name should be Lily Smiling LOL Polly I don't think the kids like those old fashioned names anymore but I have seen them come back to some extent :"-) Tracey, yes she has her own garden and I am helping add to it each year. They're a very interesting family - Danish heritage and all the kids have Scandinavian names. They have all sorts of aimals and a big veggie garden. Really good people who have helped me out a lot around my place and have generally been great neighbors. I am helping them get into flowers now - really the least I could do. The kids are homeschooled but the nicest, most polite, down to earth kids you could ever hope to meet. Their parents really do a good job with them.
Picture is myself and neighbor Mette planting bulbs at her house (neighbors') last fall.
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Apr 30, 2010 6:23 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
where is the picture Steve!!!!!!?
I tought at a Community College. The home-schooled kids were the best students.The were focused and always did well.
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May 8, 2010 6:53 AM CST
Name: Becky
WI
Echinacea Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Lilies
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East side of garage-

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May 8, 2010 7:22 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Really nice mix of Daylilies and lillium
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May 8, 2010 8:04 AM CST
Name: Becky
WI
Echinacea Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Lilies
Container Gardener Sempervivums Hostas Clematis Peonies Hummingbirder
Thank you! My beds are pretty full! I just keep buying more. I guess it is a sickness.

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