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Apr 12, 2016 2:34 PM CST
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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I like this one. The canoeing seems to be part of its charm! How big is the flower?
Touch_of_sky on the LA
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Apr 12, 2016 2:38 PM CST
Name: pam
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I agree, because its rare and makes it balanced. The whole balancing thing is important to me for some reason.
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Apr 12, 2016 2:48 PM CST
Name: pam
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I just planted some seeds today with this as pod parent. I went back and forth, as I was running out of space, but thought it might be interesting. Needless to say, it works with the canoeing. Pollen..My Cup Overflows
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Apr 12, 2016 3:29 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I wondered about cool temperatures in regard to canoeing because a lot of photos here on blooms that have bloomed and show the trait are described as not fully open due to the cool temps. So far I just have one daylily that displays the trait. I really don't have cool temps here during bloom season, but on warmer night/day temps that one does open almost flat and the canoeing is not so noticeable. I have a few seedlings using it as a pod parent. The pollen parents haven't curled up, so I'm curious if it will show up in the offspring. In looking at photos, canoeing also seems strongly associated with those lavender/blue eye type blooms. @Floota suggested it might be traced back to 'Paper Butterfly' (from an earlier thread). After she made that suggestion I did spend some time tracing parentage and, in fact, a good many of the blooms that show the trait (in photos) do trace back to 'Paper Butterfly'. Unfortunately, IMO, some blooms that got away from the color/pattern and showed canoeing still could be traced back to 'Paper Butterfly'. That seems both good and bad to someone who doesn't care for the trait. It means the trait can be separated from the usual color/pattern, which would be good. But then it also means it can be transferred to other color/patterns, which isn't good. I still see it most often depicted in the lavender/blue eye photos. My guess is that is strongly associated genetically with that color/pattern combo, but is expressed as a trait more prominently when opening in cooler temperatures. All speculation unless someone designs a more scientific approach to test it out. Smiling
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Apr 12, 2016 3:51 PM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Here cool weather causes green tips of the sepals which causes them to be stiff and prevents them from doing what their suppose to do. This normally only happens on the first couple of blooms when temps at night are below 60 degrees
You can see below how terrible the sepals look compared too the pedals.
LILLIAN'S KATELYN JOY X OOPS ANOTHER MIRACLE 9"
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Apr 12, 2016 4:22 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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touchofsky,
My little seedling had a scape of only about 11 inches but the bloom was 5 inches.
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Apr 15, 2016 5:32 AM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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It has rained for three days,this was taken just before the rain started.
Did not do the parents any justice.
LILLIAN'S DECEITFUL LIES X LILLIAN'S DAVID PHILLIPS. 6"
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Apr 15, 2016 6:19 AM CST
Name: Stan
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It's still a nice seedling Fred. We are getting a break form the rain this morning. Hurray!
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Apr 15, 2016 8:46 AM CST
Name: Betty
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I really like the star shape in that seedling, Fred, and that deep dark eye really stands out next to the nice green throat. Well done! If any of my seedlings are half as nice I'll be thrilled!

Oh and by the way, I now have a scape on my LILLIAN'S LEGENDS AND LIES! And I'm really starting to notice scapes popping up out in the garden now.
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Apr 18, 2016 6:18 AM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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I had a couple of seedling to post but I can't upload a photo, anyone else having this problem?
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Apr 18, 2016 6:40 AM CST
Name: Stan
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I just tried to upload a photo in my Blog and was unsuccessful, Fred...
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Apr 18, 2016 7:49 AM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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testing

lemon chiffon orchid, no daylilies yet, picture seemed to have posted tho.
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Apr 18, 2016 2:45 PM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Well it is now working, have no idea about what was going on earlier.
PAINTED RAINBOW X BUDDYS SPOOK 7"
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WAVES OF JOY X BUDDYS SPOOK 7" Taken last week when nights were in the 50s.
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Same Flower taken today with nighttime temp in the 60s.
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Apr 18, 2016 3:06 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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EXCELLENT blooms! I just love looking at your seedlings! Hurray!
Betty
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Apr 18, 2016 5:41 PM CST
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Name: Char
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I agree Loving the patterns on these seedlings Fred!
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Apr 18, 2016 6:26 PM CST
Name: Regina
Warrenville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Just beautiful! It's a tough choice, but I think I like the first one best...

Keep the picks coming, I love to see the way blooms look at different times of the day and season.
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Apr 18, 2016 6:26 PM CST
Name: Becky
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VERY nice, Fred!
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Apr 18, 2016 6:45 PM CST
Name: Stan
Florida Panhandle (Defuniak Sp (Zone 8b)
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Absolute beauty Fred. Drooling ing over both of those!
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Apr 18, 2016 7:04 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Chapin, SC (Zone 8a)
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They're great Fred!
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Apr 18, 2016 8:19 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Fred, did you do any crosses of Buddy's Spook x Waves of Joy?
I'm wondering what the pattern might do with a reverse cross.

Warmer temperatures sure does bring out the pattern. Nice!

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