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Dec 26, 2016 1:26 AM CST
Name: Paul
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They're looking good Della and so well grown by you, pleased that the seedlings are showing early promise.Joy Hawley has such a stately stem with perfect shaped blooms--you will get some exciting breeding stock here.Perhaps a self red will appear, it is showing red on the reverse on one cultivar.

And I detect a degree of enthusiasm from Josh also for his henryii cultivars.
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Dec 26, 2016 2:16 AM CST
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Thanks Paul (and thankyou again for the bulbs). I am indeed enjoying them and looking forward to making some of my own crosses from them.

A few photos of the garden bed as a whole:
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Quite a few more have opened over the Christmas weekend, too. Many are similar to previous ones (either orange, white+orange or white+green; all recurved), so I'll just pick out the different ones:

Garden bed #26.
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Garden bed #28 is still in the process of opening:
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Garden bed #30. @dellac, I suspect you might like this one. It was one of the smaller bulbs and only has one bloom this year.
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Garden bed #32. A lovely little trumpet with a pale interior. I'm thinking it would probably go quite nicely with 'Deliana' in a future garden...
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I'll probably have more photos tomorrow... as you can see, there's one opening just to the right of #32.
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Dec 26, 2016 6:00 AM CST
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Unfortunately there are some really bad vendors around when it comes to lilies Sad . Australia doesn't seem to be an exception.
I've only gotten 100% correct cultivars when I bought from Guntis Grants and directly from a couple of Dutch vendors. Even a very well known British vendor has sent me a small percentage of incorrect bulbs three times in a row.

Hopefully you didn't have Red Velvet before, Joshua. I know it's a common one, but it remains a true standout among lilies.

I think it's safe to say that we all enjoy looking at Paul's creations and they make such a lovely display grouped together.
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Dec 26, 2016 7:02 AM CST
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Enjoying the photos. Paul, your creations are very nice.

Some of the problems of the lily supply are linked directly back to where they purchase their stock (Dutch). Instead of cancellation because of crop failure or oversold, they just throw in an "almost" or a "not even close" lily. I have heard time and time again from different suppliers how frustrating this is. In the end, it is their name that is tarnished and not those of the supplier. All while accepting of an occasional mistake, we are all human, this is quite a different problem.
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Dec 26, 2016 7:05 AM CST
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You're right, Joshua, #30 is gorgeous! Drooling

Paul, there's a third one out:

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Reddish patches on yellow? Funny thing is, in a certain light I think it looks green - I must need my eyes checked! Hilarious!
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Dec 26, 2016 4:29 PM CST
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William said:Unfortunately there are some really bad vendors around when it comes to lilies Sad . Australia doesn't seem to be an exception.
I've only gotten 100% correct cultivars when I bought from Guntis Grants and directly from a couple of Dutch vendors. Even a very well known British vendor has sent me a small percentage of incorrect bulbs three times in a row.

Hopefully you didn't have Red Velvet before, Joshua. I know it's a common one, but it remains a true standout among lilies.


Fortunately I didn't already have 'Red Velvet', so I haven't doubled-up. I also haven't had any other mislabelled bulbs (yet) from any of the other suppliers/vendors. There's one or two that I'm keeping tabs on to confirm their ID (i.e. 'Pearl Jessica'), but at the moment think that they are correct labelled.

magnolialover said:Some of the problems of the lily supply are linked directly back to where they purchase their stock (Dutch). Instead of cancellation because of crop failure or oversold, they just throw in an "almost" or a "not even close" lily. I have heard time and time again from different suppliers how frustrating this is. In the end, it is their name that is tarnished and not those of the supplier. All while accepting of an occasional mistake, we are all human, this is quite a different problem.


That is really frustrating. I know from one supplier I emailed that he wasn't aware that the bulb he had been supplied with as a certain name was not remotely correct (it was white when the registry said it should be orange).

dellac said:Paul, there's a third one out:

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Reddish patches on yellow? Funny thing is, in a certain light I think it looks green - I must need my eyes checked! Hilarious!


I like this one too, Della. I doubt you need your eyes checked; there are a few here that are really hard to capture correctly in photos - in one case yesterday I had to go back and double-check the flower, since it had a yellow throat and in the photo it came out orange. They seem to vary a lot depending on lighting - I suspect it has to do with the amount of light that gets through from the back of the tepals.
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Dec 27, 2016 7:37 PM CST
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A few more of Paul's hybrids:

Garden bed #33. Stem needs a bit of support, but haven't had the chance to get more stakes yet. Carefully held up the stem for the first photo yesterday. Second photo is from today.
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Garden bed #34. Very light papillae on this one.
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Garden bed #35. Probably right up your alley, @dellac.
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Still more opening today. The weather is wild here today, so I'll have to wait and see what survives.
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Dec 28, 2016 2:18 AM CST
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Yup, Joshua, quite like that one... quite like it. Big Grin
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Dec 28, 2016 6:02 AM CST
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Hi Della was the pollen parent 7.9 of this really very nicely shaped bloom?(your last post)
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Dec 29, 2016 6:50 PM CST
Name: della
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Hi Paul, that last one is Red Violet x Joy Hawley.

A few more open now but I've got to get the pics.
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Dec 30, 2016 9:24 PM CST
Name: Paul
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Morning all
Get those pics, Della! Smiling

Just a pic catching a few things in the shade house this morning.


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Dec 30, 2016 10:59 PM CST
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L. duchartrei and L. nepalense in the middle of the photo, right?

I also see that I use the same tagging method as you - bread bag tags. They're very handy and just about the right size.
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Dec 30, 2016 11:08 PM CST
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My first Oriental is finally open. The first bud on 'Muscadet' opened yesterday and the second one today:



Few more of Paul's hybrids are also open. The vast majority survived the wild weather earlier in the week, although some of the blooms (mainly the trumpet form ones) fried in the heat and humidity. I'll have some more photos soon.
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Dec 31, 2016 4:38 AM CST
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My final update for 2016. Here are some of Paul's hybrids that have opened in the last 48 hours.

Garden bed #40. One of the best stems so far (very straight and has survived the wild weather his week without any support) and nice, large out-to-downfacing blooms. Definitely have plans for this one. My wife really likes it too, which helps.
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Garden bed #41. Another trumpet. This one is missing a tepal. Unfortunately I don't have any better photos - like the other trumpets so far, it hasn't handled the heat well and has lost most of its colour (in contrast to #32, which fried very quickly).
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Garden bed #46. Bit of a different one. Large papillae but they're mostly the same colour as the throat.
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Garden bed #50. Latest to open in the garden bed. Definitely planning to work with this one next year (it is small and only one bloom). It has a weak stem (so am thinking of crossing it with #40 and any others I identify as having excellent stems), but the bloom has a number of traits worth working with, I think. Of interest is the fact that the sepals petals are both quite wide and have a dark outline on the lower half, which contrasts nicely with the yellow.
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Finally, a rather unusual one has opened in the tubs out back...
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Does anyone know if papillae are dominant?

And with that, I wish you all a Happy New Year and all the best for 2017.
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Dec 31, 2016 6:57 AM CST
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Beautiful, Paul and Joshua. Joshua, I really like #40 and #50.

Paul, while it's still 2016 I have to post these for you!


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Both from Joy Hawley x 08.8.44

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Violet x Joy Hawley

And finally..... do we have it!? Are these red (enough to be 'red')? Both from Joy Hawley x #81:

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Happy New Year, everyone!
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Dec 31, 2016 7:59 AM CST
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Gosh those trumpets are gorgeous, della. You all must be having so much fun down under in lily season. Beautiful! All of these pictures are so good to see.
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At least in "catalogue language" I believe the last one could qualify as red, Della. In any case, a really interesting progress!!!

Lily pictures are better than fireworks nodding Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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Dec 31, 2016 12:17 PM CST
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Beautiful trumpets! They sure do look red. I really like the picture with the reverse showing. Enlarged the photos look even redder on my computer!
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Those red trumpets are killing me! I want, I want!!!
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Josh, I detect the tiniest bit if edge coloring on the tepals of #50, just in case you missed it.... Thumbs up
Don't know about the papillae question. There may also be the issue of pod parent vs. pollen parent that might come into play.

Theselilies and photos are all wonderful people! (giggle) I mean: These lilies and photos are all wonderful, people! Rolling on the floor laughing

Della Paul, you pick just the right parents!
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