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Apr 2, 2010 2:24 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Beautiful gardens Holly. Just love the color combinations in your first picture! I see you group Echies and Sedum too, like Clint. They do go well together.

I think anyone who gardens is always in a project mode - gardens are never done, are they?
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Apr 2, 2010 4:31 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Holly, Rita can probably ID that sedum. She really knows here tall sedum varieties. Between her and Clint I am now in a mode to add to my pitiful collection of tall varieties. With all their ideas on how to use them I am ready with new ideas gleaned from them. Thumbs up
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Apr 2, 2010 9:37 AM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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No, I can't ID it. The folliage looks exactly the same on many of the tall Sedum varieties. I know I have the Autumn Joy and the Brilliant because that is the two I had had here for years. Fortunatly the bloom color is very different on the two so I can always tell then apart when they bloom.
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Apr 2, 2010 9:40 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Hi!!!

I have to add my Sedum pics, I have three taller ones but one is only just surviving in a bad place now smothered by a huge Phormium, have to move those plants and get them growing elsewhere. It's called something like Sedum mediovariagata. I also have Russian Emperor which is doing OK but an Acacia dealbata tree is growing wide over it so I might have to move some of it too.

This is Sedum Frosty Morn, it does well and attracts butterflies as well as bees and the occasional fly. It has pale blue and cream vareigated foliage, I'll see if I can find a pic showing the foliage.

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Apr 2, 2010 9:49 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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If you can find out the parentage of Frosty Morn, it might reveal the ID of Holly's as the flowers look very similar.

I had to go to my 2008 pics to find one showing a bigger view! I've been so much into macro pics of insects lately. Rolling my eyes.

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Apr 2, 2010 9:53 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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This one has a Comma, a fly and a bumblebee on it. You can see the foliage too.

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Apr 2, 2010 9:57 AM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Like that Frosty Morn, very nice. I don't have that one. The ones I am adding this year are the dark stemmed and leaf kinds.
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Apr 2, 2010 10:02 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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I should have said my other was Purple Emperor! Rolling my eyes. I've got a Russian princess Lobelia. It's a good grower for me, but I can't find any pics on this computer of it, I will have some on a DVD. Have to make sure I get some this year, after I've moved it.
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Apr 2, 2010 10:06 AM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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I have one Purple Emperor, have two more coming as I ordered them. It is one I really like for that dark folliage.
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Apr 2, 2010 10:37 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Beautiful pictures Janet.
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Apr 2, 2010 11:05 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Thanks Chris! Smiling
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Apr 2, 2010 1:07 PM CST
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Janet I well know your insect photos, which are amazing. These photos just prove what bee/butterfly magnets they are. : )
I love the foliage on that one, I don't have it. Will have to see about adding it to my yard. : )
Janet could you post some of those photos to the sedum database, even the close up with insects. Amazing pictures. And Frosty Morn doesn't have any photos in the entry yet. Hurray!
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Apr 2, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Yes Lynn I will do that soon with pleasure!

They are vital food for insects in September here, filling a gap between summer flowers and Ivy but I also have species Dahlias which carry on until frosts. They are very popular!
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Apr 2, 2010 1:22 PM CST
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Here's the link Janet. : )
We have been so stormy here I can't get any pictures of flowers or insects. : (
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Apr 2, 2010 7:01 PM CST
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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Beautiful pics. I really love the variegated sedums.
I was out today walking around the yard and looking at all the new growth. I was happy to see the Variegated tall sedum has expanded a little more. It is almost burried in the tulips coming up, but it is looking really good. I was wondering if I pinched off the tops could I root them? Would that help the sedum to spread more?
This pic is a little bare looking but it is that small bed near the gazebo. There are a few perennials coming up but the sedum is making it's self very noticeable. I will be digging some of it up to give away and maybe move some down to another new large bed that was added last summer. We haven't dressed the Gazebo yet as we will get the new expanded floor down first. You can get an idea of the size of the expansion as it will be approx where the RR Ties are laying. You can also see how close to the bed it will come. There will be flower beds in the corners and once the ties are in place and the floor finished I can work to expand the existing small bed a bit.

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Apr 2, 2010 7:15 PM CST
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Yes, you can cut them back and plant the cuttings. You can also divide the root ball for more plants. The take off pretty fast. That is going to be such a pretty area when you are finished with all your remodeling. Thumbs up
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Apr 2, 2010 7:58 PM CST
Name: Holly
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Thanks Lynn, Usually I divide the root ball and give extra away or move it. I don't usually pinch and propagate these but I didn't know why that wouldn't work. The variegated is either pretty slow growing or else I just haven't had it long enough to really get going so I was thinking of a different way to propagate it.
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Apr 2, 2010 8:22 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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That will definitely work, and it will make the plants bushier. Is that a word? Sticking tongue out
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Apr 3, 2010 3:24 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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We had sun this afternoon, no wind either! So I dug up my Purple Emperor, split it in two and replanted it where it will hopefully do better. It was actually quite a big clump, the roots are tuberous. I was going to try to get some pieces off the sides but that wasn't very successful, the bits I got I put in a pot in hope they grow. I did that once before but vine weeviles ate the roots, I found one when I lifted the plant but only one thankfully.

I also dug up my puny little examples of the other variegated one, it has creamy yellow in the middle of the leaves and I'm starting to recall it was definitely a mediovariegata sort of name. I think I threw out the catalogue I got it from, that was many years ago now. It's amazing the poor things were still growing, they are now in pots so I will take a pic of the leaves, I doubt I will get flowers this year.

I had intentions of digging both these up this year but your forum has encouraged me to get on with the job Lynn! Good for you. Big Grin
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Apr 3, 2010 3:41 PM CST
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Glad you didn't toss it. Here is a link, very pretty plant Janet. http://www.heronswood.com/pere... It could easily bloom for you this year if it has found a happy place.
You have been very busy today. Thumbs up Smiling Thumbs up Hurray! I agree
I love having all these ideas to encourage me to try new things. I have not been having success with Ogon, one of my very favorite sedum. I will try one more time this year with a new site for it. I really love that plant. If you see a happy,healthy specimen they are breath taking to me. Rolling my eyes.

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