Elderberry bushes can get quite tall and out of control in the wild in Calif. Here because of going dormant in the winter I havn't seen really big bushes. But I want some and its getting to hard for me to climb around in the woods trying to find them and than pick them. I know were a big group of them are, but to get to them you have to climb thru wild roses, blackberry vines, with lots of thorns, and of course don't forget the ticks. Elderberry ripen in July and August. You can not eat elderberries off the bush, they must be cooked first. I love Elderberry Jam.