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Sep 25, 2018 11:05 PM CST
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Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
Happy belated birthday indeed, Janie! Hurray!

I did go in to Urgent Care again to see if they could further evaluate the situation with my leg, and they have ruled out stress fracture by account of several X-rays. They've also taken more blood work just in case a blood clot could have developed in a week, but they highly doubt it.

More or less, they're suggesting it is a mild sprain, but I don't know how a person can simply walk forward and not twist an ankle, or fall or anything and still get a sprain. I now have a foot brace on and I am likely to be bound to crutches for awhile because I have to baby the sprain and not make it worse. Lovely! Now I can simply not garden my gardens until my foot is in working shape again.... Grumbling Glare But, I can deal with that if that means my leg and foot get better....also happens to be great that I'll be crutching around very hilly places while we're on our yearly trip to Flat Rock, NC for a convention of sorts.

On a good side of news, my driver's course is going swell. She's saying I have been taught very well for only driving a total of seven months. There are a few things we're tweaking, but she is saying I am doing very well. Hurray! Halfway done with the course, and I WILL be a licensed driver! Sticking tongue out
That just means, y'all stay clear! Hilarious!

I also started making a spreadsheet (and in my iris list) of what's planted where so I can retain a grasp of what is where and "okay, so that purple IS indeed....that one...uh...Siri, what's the name of this iris?"

An example is I am giving the various iris beds initials. If I planted Stairway to Heaven, and Conjuration in the L-shaped bed, the initials would go sort of like LSBSTHC. And if the tire bed, TB3SDMMBE = Tire bed 3, Sharp Dressed Man, Micro Burst, Epicenter, and so on. I'll also begin taking pictures of each iris newly planted and some of the olders as best I can just for a second confirmation. Is this a good strategy? Confused Hilarious!

I did get some more dirt, and two more $1 dollar each mum containers. I'll likely plant them soon....if my foot doesn't say otherwise! Sticking tongue out
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 25, 2018 11:34 PM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
UndyingLight said:

I also started making a spreadsheet (and in my iris list) of what's planted where so I can retain a grasp of what is where and "okay, so that purple IS indeed....that one...uh...Siri, what's the name of this iris?"



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I hope your foot heals fast, please take good care of it and give it some rest. Crossing Fingers!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Sep 26, 2018 12:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
Thanks, Lilli. I am doing just that!

I went out to check irises, and I realized that Faithful and True has two increases growing! Hurray! Hurray!
I never noticed because the increases are small, behind the large fan and propped up next to a large rock. I checked plant buddies and fellow rebloomers Mariposa Autumn and Kind Candace, both no increases. As did Mariposa Autumn's other rhizome which is planted in a bed next to Earl of Essex. EoE no increases, but he is a much newer planting than MA.

Up by the downed fence, I noticed Acoma also has an increase sprouting, but only one! Both Golden Tiger and Beverly Sills had no increases either. I have given this bed a 'code' to remind me what bed it is. RP1BABSGT - Repurposed bed 1, Acoma, Bevery Sills, and Golden Tiger.

Lucy Doodle's increase in the rock garden (RCRDDLD - rock garden rock, Deborah Dances, Lucy Doodle) seems to be fine after I mistakenly broke off the very tiny increase from the mother rhizome.

I still need to plant those mums.... Sighing! but, they can sit in a container for awhile I suppose.

Y'know, this 'coding' I am writing down as a track for the irises in various beds isn't too complicated so far. I need to take ID pictures as well to make it easier to confirm where they are.

Here's a few examples of the beds with iris names tracked:
HBSS2ALC - hanging basket section, section 2, Anne Lowe, Cara (SDBs).

LSBBSBBP - L-shaped bed, blue section, Blackbeard(BB), Perfection.

TB1SDMMBE - Tire bed 1, Sharp Dressed Man, Micro Burst(IB), Epicenter.

RPBCSFT - Repurposed bed 1, Cherub's Smile, Full Tide.

PP1EWCE - Plastic pot 1, Edith Wolford, Cat's Eye (SDB).

And the list just continues on. I am also putting these 'codes' in the notes of my plants in my plantlist. Is this a good strategy? Sticking tongue out

Thanks for the awesome comments, y'all! Hurray!
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 26, 2018 3:53 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
I'm sorry to hear that your leg is still giving you grief Thumbs down
It sounds like you have invented a new language Hilarious!
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Sep 26, 2018 9:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
IGIHR, IQCA. Hilarious! Hilarious! I'll be your translator! "I guess I have, Robin. It's quite cool, actually." Rolling on the floor laughing

I now have some crutches, but I have to figure out how to adjust them, because if I stand straight up, they're imbedded in my under-arms, currently. Blinking Thank you for the well wish, Robin
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 26, 2018 9:48 PM CST
Los Altos, CA (Zone 9b)
Irises Region: Ukraine
If those crutches imbed themselves in your armpits, you can end up with a pinched nerve. Crutches aren't as easy to use as you would think! Good luck!
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Sep 26, 2018 9:56 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
UndyingLight said:Thanks, Lilli. I am doing just that!

Up by the downed fence, I noticed Acoma also has an increase sprouting, but only one! Both Golden Tiger and Beverly Sills had no increases either. I have given this bed a 'code' to remind me what bed it is. RP1BABSGT - Repurposed bed 1, Acoma, Bevery Sills, and Golden Tiger.
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Y'know, this 'coding' I am writing down as a track for the irises in various beds isn't too complicated so far. I need to take ID pictures as well to make it easier to confirm where they are.

Here's a few examples of the beds with iris names tracked:
HBSS2ALC - hanging basket section, section 2, Anne Lowe, Cara (SDBs).

LSBBSBB...........

And the list just continues on. I am also putting these 'codes' in the notes of my plants in my plantlist. Is this a good strategy? Sticking tongue out

Thanks for the awesome comments, y'all! Hurray!


Monty ~ Do you have the spuria iris Golden Tiger? Or were you referring to Golden Panther TB?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Sep 26, 2018 10:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
I am a goon. I keep confusing names, it's the TB Golden Panther. I don't know why I am constantly referring Golden Panther as Golden Tiger... D'Oh! Rolling on the floor laughing Thanks for helping me realize, again. Sticking tongue out
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 27, 2018 9:16 AM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
UndyingLight said:I am a goon. I keep confusing names, it's the TB Golden Panther. I don't know why I am constantly referring Golden Panther as Golden Tiger... D'Oh! Rolling on the floor laughing Thanks for helping me realize, again. Sticking tongue out


Monty ~ If you marked, tagged or put signs in, it might help with the confusion. Also in a notebook, write out in order, what you have planted in each bed. That way, if something happens to the tags or signs, you will know exactly what you have and where it is. It doesn't have to be a fancy computer program, but if you know how to do that, it still helps to have a "paper copy". If your computer crashes, or you lose service, if everything is written in a notebook, then you will have control of your inventory.
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Sep 27, 2018 9:48 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
The least I can do is get some sticks, shave them a little bit, and put the name of the iris on the stick, and put the sticks with them. Then, hopefully, that is a very cheap alternative than trying to buy a Brothers label maker on day one. Haha.
I will put them in order too, I see what you mean. With the Golden Panther, Acoma and Beverly Sills bed, the two Bev rhizomes are the farthest left, Acoma in the middle, and Golden Panther to the right. If I record the plantings in order, that's better.

I have been calling Golden Panther Golden Tiger since day one. D'Oh!
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:52 AM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
If you use a marker on sticks, put clear nail polish over them. Actually pencil works better as all markers fade over time.

I have used tongue depressors and found on some, nothing written on them at all. It was very disappointing, especially since I was growing some special heirloom tulips in pots.
I have been told that tulips don't "come back" in pots, but mine have.
Also daffodils....
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Sep 27, 2018 12:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
What about pen? I will use pencil lead, but I hope I will be able to see it clearly. Thanks for the suggestions, Evelyn!

Does the pencil wear out on tongue depressors? Because, if not, I bet I can get a whole lot of them for really cheap, and that would do me wonders for ID'ing everything.
I've never put daffodils or tulips in a pot before, but I don't have very much experience with any flower plant, even irises, haha. I have tulips and daffodils, but my tulips did not bloom this year, unfortunately. Plenty of daffodils, though!

Here's a few pictures!
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And just a couple more!
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Thanks for the comments, y'all, and the well wishes on my foot troubles!
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 27, 2018 12:40 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Monty ~ Do your parents do any gardening, or do you do it all?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Sep 27, 2018 12:45 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
My dad used to have a vegetable garden, but due to circumstances, he has stopped. Other than him keeping up with lawn mowing, and weed eating, I do all of the gardening. It's quite hard to keep up with for 10 acres of land, and I still have a mountain of weeds to pull and things to do before these gardens even look close to great. Rolling my eyes.

I'll give credit where credit is due. Both my mom and dad tried very hard to maintain the expansive amounts of gardens when we moved here, but having three littles (including me) and ten acres of mowing, and dozens of flower beds, it all just either died, or got overgrown, like the state of how bad the long, segmented bed is. My dad usually does a lot of maintaining the house sort of work rather than gardening.
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Sep 28, 2018 7:32 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
One thing that I don't do "enough of", is to write the plant name , using a permanent marker, on a strip of plastic, cut from a milk carton....then "plant" the strip right along with the plant. The writing will stay "readable" for a long, long time, and provides one sure way to ID it when you dig. I use "plant labels "....for visitors to see the name, and aluminum tags with the name "etched" onto them, and wired to a long nail, as a more "permanent " marker.....they are less likely to blow away, get pulled out by critters...whatever, but, they aren't very easy for visitors to read. As you "evolve" as a "grower" you will, no doubt, find that each method of marking has it's good, and bad, points, and will also discover that even though it's "mapped", and "marked", you will still "lose" one, occasionally Sticking tongue out .
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Sep 28, 2018 10:39 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
The fleet is ready....!
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Now...time to go place them!

Arlyn - Thanks for the ideas, Arlyn! I will have to try them out at some point. Hopefully, I'll be able to get something that makes labeling very easy! Rolling my eyes.
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Oct 5, 2018 9:58 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
I've gotten back home from my trip. It was a great time!

Well, it looks like I've got some work to do. Firstly, the L-shaped bed was really haphazardly made by your's truly and there were irises under the new soil that I didn't know were there, and now they're growing up and uprooting some of the new plantings. I betcha haven't had that one before! Rolling my eyes.
I may try and get everything out of the area where unknown irises are growing up, and transplant those noids elsewhere, or I am also thinking about taking the top part of the L out, and leaving the horizontal part of the bed. I have another spot in front of our house (or the porch) that I feel these may look swell in should I choose to do so.

Despite the issue with the L-shaped bed, quite a few of the new plantings have rooted pretty firmly in the ground, and some are even sending up increases, only about two weeks after planting. The irises in the tire, all three, Sharp Dressed Man, Epicenter, and IB Micro Burst have well rooted themselves crazily fast. Micro Burst is sending up a third increase from the original two and the fan that I received. Hurray!

One iris (noid) was uprooted that had three increases. I planted it promptly back right where it was. It was a yellow noid that was given to me in August. Two new noids were given to me, but the pink and red one, like Indian Chief seems to be more vigorous, or quicker at its vigorousness. Well, now the yellow noids are catching up. Most of the yellow noids have at least two increases, with some working up thirds. I am feeling a little more confident in maybe that these yellow noids will bloom too next season. Hurray!

My little Midnight MDB suffered while I was gone. Now the rhizome, what's left of it is less than two inches long, when it was closer to four or five before the rot. I planted the remaining little bit (which was growing an increase) in with Cat's Eye, and the tiny Edith Wolford rhizome. I hope little Midnight recovers! Sad Crossing Fingers!

Other than the little update here, lots of de-weeding to do after six days of not doing so. Whistling
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Oct 6, 2018 11:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7b)
Do you ever wonder if you have too
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
Here's another update from today!

I did decide to go ahead and move most of the varieties in the L-shaped bed to in front of the porch. The yellow/red, orange, rebloomer sections and Tobacco Chew and Thornbird are now in a new home. The blue section and the ID purpose-irises may stay, but I am not sure. Regardless, this new area looks quite nice!
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Rebloomers Feed Back (left), IB Concertina (middle), and Grape Echo (right) have housed themselves around one of the ceramic pots. I moved the Nordica rhizome that was in the way, but I may move it right back, but more to the left and away from the rebloomers.
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The other two Nordica rhizomes (particularly the third in front of the third ceramic pot) are doung well. One has grown an increase, but no fan. The other one has four increases, but I am not sure on a fan.


I did an interesting pattern with the irises that were moved up close to the porch. IBs and BBs (or smaller irises in general) are still in front, but the TBs make up the back row. I also planted the noid daylilies in with the irises for companion's sake. (I'll get to that later).

Here they are in order: Mango Queen (left) and Kathy Chilton! (right)
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Both have increases forming!

Nessun Dorma, and one of the noid daylily plants transplanted from the plastic pots.
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Smoldering Fire(back), Tobacco Chew (back) and IB Honey Glazed (front).
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Smoldering Fire has an increase forming, Tobacco Chew has three!!

BB Cranapple (front) Thornbird (back), IB Hot Spice (front) and the second noid daylily transplant. I love Thornbird and Tobacco Chew. I have a feeling they may do well together! HG, Cranapple and HS are awesome looking. Hopefully, they'll do the same in real time!
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Thornbird didn't have any inkling to an increase(surprisingly! That rhizome is HUGE!), but Cranapple and Hot Spice both have some forming!

Bad image, but Terracotta Bay (left) and Oil Painting (right). The last of the first segment of transplanted noid daylilies from the plastic pots.
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Both have increases despite small rhizomes. (Compared to other rhizomes from that of Tobacco Chew and Thornbird Big Grin ).

Shakedown (left) and Earthborn (right) finish up this long bed.
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I believe both had increases!

I am liking this new pattern MUCH better than them all being singled out into groups. If you like, here's the pattern: Orange, yellow/red, orange, dark red, tan(ish), tan(ish), red(ish), orange, yellow/red, orange.
The littles in front are orange, dark red, orange. If I recall, the daylilies are also orange. Sticking tongue out
Hopefully, this will mean I get a wide array of colours and bloomtimes. I am so looking forward to this bed already! Lovey dubby Crossing Fingers!

The aforementioned right-most ceramic pot houses a Nordica rhizome in front of it, and she's doing really well!
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Cat's Eye (middle) Edith Wolford (left) and now a Midnight MDB (top right) reside in the large plastic pot. Cat's Eye has SIX increases! nodding
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This pot is more-so a 'recover yourself' pot. Even though Cat's Eye wasn't sickly (clearly!), it is a nice fit ever more. Edith Wolford has not sent up an increase, but that's likely due to her puny rhizome's stature. I am just so glad to see she's recovering, though! Lovey dubby

I mentioned how some noid daylilies were transplanted into plastic pots to recover themselves before being moved to a better area, well, here's phase two. Phase 1 and 2 daylilies were in the same area, but being trampled by deer and constantly cut down by lawn mowers, both drastically reduced their stature and was on the brink of going extinct. A few weeks back, I moved the small clump remaining of the first noid daylily clump (both were purchased from Lowe's in 2016, but I forgot to save the IDs like a numpty! D'Oh! ) into the plastic pots, so they can recover themselves before I transplanted them. Those three daylily plants I mentioned in the transplanting of all the irises, those were phase one. Well, now here's the remainder of what was left of the second group of noid daylilies. Hopefully, they'll recover themselves, and now they're on the right track!
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Maybe tomorrow or in a few days, I may transplant the remainder of the L-shaped bed into the other side of the sidewalk's bed in front of the porch. It'd be consistent of the blue section and the ID's, but I am not sure yet. The only bed that may not move is the purples in the tire! They're doing considerably well. All three have rooted very firmly and some are showing increases! Big Grin

I'll keep you all updated as time progresses. I'm very much enjoying this so far! Hurray!
TB 'Starting Fresh' blooming for me in May of 2022. It bloomed for a week and a half with nine buds.
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Oct 6, 2018 11:29 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Monty ~ Do you do all of this after school?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Oct 7, 2018 5:21 AM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
There are some nice combinations there Monty. I live the smoldering fire, tobacco chew and honey glazed trio Thumbs up

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