Here are the VL.
An old one that I cannot find my picture. Will link to the one here in the database
Jean (McDade-Schreiner, 1943)
height 38in (96cm), season VLa, Dormant, Diploid, Unusual Form Crispate, ORM/OM3: Orange red medium petals with orange medium sepals bicolor.
Orange Sorbet Truffle 31",Tet,5",Evr,VL,Db,Re,Ext
Have already posted this elsewhere, but here it is again.
Pinhil Claret Symphony 45",Tet,6.50",Dor,VL,Re,Ext