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Feb 22, 2013 12:56 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Smiling Jelinda your grandson was the hand of fate and fate decided that you should have now let me see, more then twenty baby succulents Thumbs up . Non of us knows what the future has in store for us, what we consider harm at the time of happening may portend a better future.
I can smell spring and it seems so can you. Have a wonderful sunny day with your plants while I scowl at the rain clouds.
Regards,
Arif.
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Feb 22, 2013 2:17 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
https://www.google.com.pk/sear...
http://www.lyriczz.com/lyrics/...
A lyric from your times which may raise a few nostalgic moments.
Regards,
Arif.
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Feb 22, 2013 6:29 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
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My mother's favorite song and movie star... Hilarious! Thanks for the memory, Arif and what a fun & unique way to make your point! I agree
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Feb 22, 2013 6:36 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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I agree Great! I tip my hat to you.
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Feb 22, 2013 9:04 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Doris Day was the heart throb of a younger kiddy me in the days of black and white Lovey dubby and so was Lucille Ball.
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Arif.
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Feb 22, 2013 9:16 PM CST
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Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
I like the link... I too grew up with Que Sera Sera on the radio.

I know we have some similarities but you have an advantage where humidity is concerned. You have it year round while we do not.

I think we all yearn for that which we don't have. Those of us with straight hair want curls and those with curls yearn for straight locks.

The gardener should himself create the climate required. II am considering Ferns and other humidity lovers.


May I ask how you plan to provide the needed humidity for these plants? I have a similar effort having recently developed a passion for bromeliads which need a more temperate climate and require a fair share of humidity. Still learning and haven't lost any yet.



Jelinda your grandson was the hand of fate and fate decided that you should have now let me see, more then twenty baby succulents
Perhaps the hand of fate decided that Jelinda needed to learn to propagate.

I believe everything works out for the best... we may not know what is best at the time but will realize it in the future if we only look. So when life hands you lemons, make lemonade!
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Feb 22, 2013 11:13 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Lived for twenty years in Koppens zone red. So my love affair with cactus and succulents is ongoing even though I now live in a mix of zones.I better add Bsh to my zones.
Regards,
Arif.
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Feb 23, 2013 12:39 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Kristi sorry, why don't you place this question on the Gardening Forum with a few clear photographs of you garden. Please mention the time of day the photographs were taken as shadows tell a lot of stories with reference to time. Lots of very good outdoors gardeners there and you can get a lot of ideas by taking a peek at the layout of their gardens. zuzu is the best in bringing order out of chaos Smiling .
These are specialised forums.
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Arif.
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Feb 23, 2013 6:23 AM CST
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Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
Oh no, Arif... I was only asking how you intended to provide the needed humidity for the " Ferns and other humidity lovers " that you are considering growing as per your comment above.

I am fine with growing my bromeliads thus far and am aware this is a specialized forum. You see, I began this thread. Thanks for contributing.
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Feb 23, 2013 7:57 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Bromeliads you need to fill their cups, have a bunch Billbergia nutans somewhere. I have to provide humidity, shade and a cool environment. I have been slowly trying to replicate the conditions required. It is a long term slow project. First I worked on the shade part, took me two years to get it right. Cool, for this I made the raised bed out of terracotta tiles so that evaporation helps in temperature control, moisture and humidity. Now I am working inside on the soil, need a lot of organic components, less clay, more sand and gravel because these plants are lime lovers and hate having their roots in wet clay. This part at the speed the decomposition is going on will take time, maybe a month or more. Then I am making coir screens to hang between the hot desert air and the plants, I will wet the screens then let the breeze blow through cooling and raising the humidity. Also thinking of visiting an aquarium shop and getting a small sealed terrarium fountain, a coil of air tubing, some valves crosses and tee's then setting up a drip system to the screens. Fountain will be used in mist position meant for turtles, etc but let the plants have some fun.
Rolling on the floor laughing Not for you Kristi.
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Arif.
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Feb 23, 2013 8:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
Thank you Arif ~ I always find it interesting to learn how others do their problem solving.

Do you not receive freezing temperatures also? What will you do then?
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Feb 23, 2013 9:42 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Freezing is not bad, it is the frost which does the most damage plus the structure of the house offers some protection. I just lay a layer of straw which has not let me down yet. Straw slowly decomposes over winter providing heat, nutrients and moisture. End of winter I work it in, the long fiber helps to loosen up the soil. We never go below -5c maybe wind chill can go down further, the screens provide shelter.
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Arif.
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Feb 23, 2013 7:49 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
Thank you ~ that is good information. I am glad you have thought it out,
That is the kind of information I hoped to hear when I started this thread. It is appreciated.
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Feb 23, 2013 9:13 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Thumbs up Starting the thread is not important. There are a lot of threads that have fizzled out. Starting a thread which become a magnet, now that is achievement.
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Arif.
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Mar 2, 2013 9:19 AM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Ah, Arif. Low humidity - something I can certainly relate to, especially in spring and fall. I know Kristi knows what I'm talking about. Right now it is in the 20% range - <i>inside</> my home. I'm actually using olive oil on my skin. And I'm trying to grow orchids? Rolling my eyes.

But at least over-watering is typically not an issue!!!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Mar 3, 2013 12:37 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
In winters using olive oil is not a bad idea. If not, I end up getting a very bad red itch due to scratching. Nothing can beat the natural body oils but they seem to be inactive in winter or maybe due to age they have become so Shrug! . I don't remember anything like that when I was young.
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Arif.
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Mar 3, 2013 12:06 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Yeah, it just isn't exactly a fragrance I would usually use, lol!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Mar 3, 2013 9:38 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Smiling . In summers, like it or not the fragrance is there. It is this soaping business every day in winters that does the damage plus the hot water used. A plain shower in lukewarm water normally should be enough unless a person has been rolling in the muck. Which we garden lovers revel in doing Smiling .
Regards,
Arif.
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Mar 6, 2013 5:56 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
LOL! Ah well - my horses and dogs always enjoy a good muck roll, so shall I!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Mar 6, 2013 6:24 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
Garden Art Birds Dog Lover Cat Lover Region: Pacific Northwest Hummingbirder
I'll abstain Hilarious! not in the mood for muck rolling! Whistling

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