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Apr 17, 2015 4:16 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
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Jerry, after I asked that it occurred to me it would depend on the vigor of the cultivar. Some will need division more often than others. Are there cues you look for, like reduced number of blooms, that let you know it is time to divide? If they're blooming well and healthy, should you divide anyway?
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Apr 17, 2015 9:49 AM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
Charter ATP Member
It is just a personal judgement. In my case, I have planted peonies on the spur of the moment then later wished I had looked for a better site. If the clump is healthy and in a good location, there is no compelling reason to divide it.

This one is a prime candidate to be dug and moved this fall. It just does not like its surroundings.
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Apr 17, 2015 9:53 AM CST
Name: Diann
Lisbon, IA
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Hostas Region: Iowa Lilies Peonies
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Soils, I agree with Neal. Your pink one is Do Tell.

Neal, I really don't divide my peonies unless I need to move them for some reason. I have a tree peony that I need to move this fall. Mags, have you ever moved at tree peony? I don't like to move my peonies after they are planted and happy, thus I very rarely divide.
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Apr 18, 2015 4:31 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Okay, that's what I was thinking- "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has been my way of thinking. And for years, every time I moved a peony, I broke the spade handle, LOL.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Apr 18, 2015 9:37 AM CST
Name: Mary Stella
Chester, VA (Zone 7b)
Dahlias Canning and food preservation Lilies Peonies Permaculture Ponds
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You had me worried. Cora Louise and Julia Rose are my two oldest now (after killing Red Charm). One really wet spring set them back badly but they are coming back slowly with a few blooms each year. Julia Rose was about 5' tall and that big around and covered with blooms. Cora Louise was much shorter but had lots of blooms also. Rather different locations.

Bev and Mackinac Grand continue to be my tallest and sturdiest as to stems. Love both blooms.

I really like your picture of Do Tell. I don't know how I have managed to get past that one without buying it. Maybe next year.
From -60 Alaska to +100 Virginia. Wahoo
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Apr 18, 2015 10:38 AM CST
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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@Dianne,

Thank you for the lovely photos. You garden is really pretty. It complements the house (or the house complements the garden Smiling ) I particulalry like the combination of Morning Lilac's magenta flowers and sulphur green euphorbia.
"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
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Apr 18, 2015 11:59 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9b
Bulbs Region: California Cut Flowers Peonies Plant and/or Seed Trader Vegetable Grower
Thanks, Jasmin. I love playing around with different plant combos, though that euphorbia started out as one plant in the back and has reseeded itself all over the front yard. Thank goodness the green goes with everything. Big Grin

Next up last week were the corals.

Coral Sunset - a nice bright shade of coral

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Coral Charm - I like this one so much I have 3 of them. Depending on how much sunlight each plant gets, the shade of coral changes.
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And Pink Hawaiian Coral - exactly as the name implies - a combo of pink and coral colors. The stalks are tall and sturdy with no staking needed.
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Apr 19, 2015 12:04 AM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9b
Bulbs Region: California Cut Flowers Peonies Plant and/or Seed Trader Vegetable Grower
Diann - if you have to move your tree peony, dig a wide berth around the plant and go deep. The tap root is very deep - I went sideways too early in digging my red one out and broke off the main root. It never recovered. I thought it would have have lateral tubers like the herbaceous ones.

My kinkaku is way in the back of my bed and is hidden, but I have been too leery to move it. Let us know if you are successful. It may inspire me to try again.
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Apr 19, 2015 12:22 AM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9b
Bulbs Region: California Cut Flowers Peonies Plant and/or Seed Trader Vegetable Grower
One more shot of Coral charm - this one is very Coralish as it matures.

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Apr 19, 2015 8:17 AM CST
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Your peonies look wonderful, Dianne. I am amazed that you are able to grow peonies in your zone 9. Can I ask what is the hottest average temp and the coldest average temp in your area?
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Apr 19, 2015 8:37 AM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
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Your peonies are absolutely perfect, Dianne. I'm anxiously waiting to see what blooms next!
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Apr 19, 2015 12:03 PM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
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Dianne, your peony blooms are fantastic, I love all the Corals'!

Here are a few bloom pics from yesterday.

Raspberry Charm
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My pink noid
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Yellow tree peonies
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Tree peony Center Stage is barely a foot tall, but is blooming.

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Apr 19, 2015 12:12 PM CST
Name: Diann
Lisbon, IA
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Hostas Region: Iowa Lilies Peonies
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Lovely Annette, just lovely. You are two zones warmer than me and now I have peony bloom envy. Drooling But soon, it will be us northerners turn. Smiling
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Apr 19, 2015 12:22 PM CST
Name: Mary Stella
Chester, VA (Zone 7b)
Dahlias Canning and food preservation Lilies Peonies Permaculture Ponds
Garden Ideas: Level 2
I am about the last to have blooms except for my fernleaf but all I have is pips showing on a few herbaceous. Patience Mary, Patience. Rolling my eyes.
From -60 Alaska to +100 Virginia. Wahoo
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Apr 19, 2015 3:19 PM CST
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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@Oberon,

I think you and I were the last to have blooms last year. The first pips on a couple of my NOIDs and Blaze have started showing just yesterday. The spring is late overhere. The Forsythias are late; I use them as a reference. I migth be the last to go this year.

The TPs are just forming buds. Rockii might be the first to bloom. I cannot wait to see it. In addition, I had to prune my old High Noon and Hoki. They lost several old branches that were injured last year due to the ice storm; a tree broke and felt on them. I was hoping to save the old branches, but it didn't work. At least I can try to make these two TPs more Asian looking and expose the wood. I wonder if they will have less flowers this year.
"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
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Apr 20, 2015 6:41 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Annette, love them all! Raspberry Charm is one I've had my eye one, gorgeous! Interesting to me that tree and herbaceous types are blooming at the same time there. Around here I typically see trees first, then herbaceous, aside from fernies that bloom early, but I don't see around here often.

Speaking of fernies, P.tenuifolia opened her first blooms yesterday. Will get a photo when weather allows.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Apr 20, 2015 5:54 PM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
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Thanks Neal! Raspberry Charm is a beautiful peony.

Raspberry Charm with iris Immortality
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Blaze, later in the day with the bloom partially closed.


Buckeye Belle
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Buckeye Belle, Command Performance and Do Tell to the right in the multi plant pic
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Command Performance just starting to open.


Do Tell also just starting to open
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Apr 20, 2015 9:22 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
Annuals Winter Sowing Plant and/or Seed Trader Peonies Lilies Irises
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How big are the blooms of Command Performance, Annette? I remember the pics you shared of the buds showed them to be ginormous....
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Apr 20, 2015 9:33 PM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
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Hi Liz, the bud still hasn't fully opened yet. I'll measure it when it does and let you know.
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Apr 21, 2015 5:34 PM CST
Name: Gary Ray
Ohio (Zone 6a)
I bought a High Noon TP last weekend for $50. It is about 3 feet tall and had 7 buds. The first bud opened this week. Smells wonderful.
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Also, my hybrid TP from Tree Peony Garden opened it's first bloom this week. Enjoy.

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