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Jan 15, 2016 11:53 PM CST
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I better get busy then, don't want a fail certificate issued. Where is the wringing hands emoticon?
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Jan 16, 2016 1:37 PM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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Concert at the clinic? Trust me... bad idea! Thumbs down

I must correct a terrible imbalance in my semp garden. I have only two Huefs and they live in pots in the greenhouse.
See how dry, warm and cozy they look. Happy as clams. I don't think they mind the greenhouse one bit.
But next year they must break out into the real world.

'Bronze Ingot' and 'Irene'
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There will be lots more Heufs next year, I'm working on it. nodding
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Jan 16, 2016 5:52 PM CST
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Absolutely lovely photo Tim. How could we not love the hueffs. Glad to hear that you will be adding to your heuff collection. Hurray!

I can play a radio, or cd player for the Clinic Concert. Whistling
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Jan 17, 2016 7:29 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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Can you explain the different types. I remember you did it in the 2015 thread but maybe make it a sticky?
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Jan 17, 2016 7:47 PM CST
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Anna, do you mean the different types of sempervivum? As they are all in one genus now. If that is what you mean I think that would be a great idea to give that information it's own thread. Let me know if that is what you mean.
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Jan 19, 2016 5:55 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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We've sure been having some brutal weather. -15 deg. at night, struggling to hit zero degrees during the day, windchills 25-30 below zero. Brrrrrr. Looking at some semp pictures from last year so I have something to look forward to. Here are a few of my European varieties.

Rectonii
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Mary Beth
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Intensity


Choctaw


Picasso
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Jan 19, 2016 6:01 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Choctaw ,really nice.
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Jan 19, 2016 10:04 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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All really nice, Chris. Funny how the rock surrounding the Picasso had taken on their coloring?
Must be the light? I had to look up photos of Picasso and see that they can be very intensely "mottled" in color. Yours look perfect in that picture! Keep warm! Smiling
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Jan 19, 2016 10:12 AM CST
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They are beautiful Chris. I really love the color contrast in Rectonii. And the color changes in it are amazing.

I don't even want to think about being in weather like you are having Chris. Stay warm and safe.
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Jan 19, 2016 10:17 AM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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All beautiful but that Rectonii is eye catching with the lime green. That is so cold, just can't imagine. Group hug
I guess I'll take a look at mine today, see if any are picture worthy. Not sure if any of you have noticed but it is still light at 5:00 PM now! Spring is ever so slowly creeping up on winter. Hurray! Hurray!
Sempervivum for Sale
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Jan 19, 2016 11:29 AM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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Ahhh.... pictures... glorious pictures. So soothing, and promising of fair weather to come. Yes, I've noticed the days getting longer. The chickens don't go in until after 5:00 now when it used to be dark at 4:30. And I can see the sun hovering up over the treetops in the morning shining increasing amounts of sunlight on the semp garden.

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Jan 19, 2016 6:02 PM CST
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Hurray! Hurray!
I am all in for longer daylight. I know the night time temps are up in the 40's now. Hurray!
Soon it will be glorious spring, with sunshine and warmth. Lovey dubby

Tim your 'Pacific Devil's Food' is really looking great.
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Jan 21, 2016 6:23 PM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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A truck came by today and dropped literally a ton of rocks in my driveway. I wonder what shall I do with them. Confused

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Jan 21, 2016 6:34 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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DUH...
Get to it Tim...you'll need a European Bed, won't you?
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Jan 21, 2016 7:06 PM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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webesemps said:DUH...
Get to it Tim...you'll need a European Bed, won't you?


Yes, how true. By the time spring gets here I should have two sizable and completely unoccupied beds to fill. And maybe 60 new varieties coming. *Blush*
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Jan 21, 2016 9:17 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Big Spender, Tim!
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Jan 22, 2016 4:18 PM CST
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
I can laugh at you Tim, because I am having a pallet of new cinder blocks delivered, translating to 3 new raised beds. Rolling my eyes.
Plus I have all the new plants I've ordered that will be growing around and in those beds. Things that like the same conditions as the semps. Hurray!
Specie bulbs are already popping up, and the low growing sedum are coming out of dormancy, as is the buckwheat, orostachys, specie dianthus, allium, and a kazillion other types of plants. Oh yes, and the tiny miniature iris.
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Jan 22, 2016 6:25 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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valleylynn said:Anna, do you mean the different types of sempervivum? As they are all in one genus now. If that is what you mean I think that would be a great idea to give that information it's own thread. Let me know if that is what you mean.


Yes, like the difference between Huef?,rollers and all the other words the "in crowd" uses!
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Jan 22, 2016 8:42 PM CST
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They used to be divided into Sempervivum and Jovibarba. The name of Jovibarba has been dropped and all are now under the Genus of Sempervivum.

The Jovibarba used to consisted of species: heuffelii, globiferum (consisting of a number of subspecies), now these are Sempervivum heuffelii and such. These species and subspecies also have a different form of bloom than what we all considered as sempervivum. Can you see the difference in the flowers?


heuffelii, which have rosettes that look very similar to sempervivum, but do not produce offsets on stolons like sempervivum. They reproduce by forming new rosettes from the same crown as the parent rosette.


globiferum, and many of it's subspecies, reproduce by offsets formed on very thin brittle stolons that break away from the parent rosette and usually roll away from the parent. They can even settle on their tops, but will send roots out and pull them into position for rooting into the ground.
These are the ones that go by the common name of 'Rollers'. They are so much fun to have in the garden. Little travelers. Smiling
A few of the roller types.


Hope this explanation made sense?
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Jan 22, 2016 9:09 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Thanks Lynn for the explanation! Anna if you've ever seen a semp that looked slightly deformed with several crowns in the same rosette that was probably the heuffelli type (heuf's for short!)
Here is one of my favs in that type 'Torrid Zone'
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I tip my hat to you. See now you're in with the "In crowd" Whistling

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