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Sep 16, 2017 6:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Joolie, I might be interested in some crimson clover, to, if you get a lot of seed from it. (I'm on the fencepost because of my research and the area I'm in, but I might try container planting it first to see what I think of it.)
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Sep 16, 2017 7:17 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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I just harvested the lavender moonvine seeds. I also collected some snapdragon seeds too.

I'm having trouble getting campanula seeds. I seem to be waiting too late. It's still blooming though so I'm hoping to get some later.
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Sep 16, 2017 8:05 AM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
I'm also interested in the red clover. If you have enough. Thanks!
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Sep 16, 2017 11:22 AM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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When you are all talking about Red Clover you mean the cultivated pointy type or the home field weed ,
I am presuming the pointy cultivar that looks sort of like miniature celosia ,
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Sep 17, 2017 12:36 AM CST
Name: Julie
Seattle (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Birds Plant and/or Seed Trader Hummingbirder Region: Pacific Northwest
I tried to find the photo I took of mine earlier this year but I have too many pictures of birds, so here's someone else's picture:

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Sooo... yes and no. I do not believe crimson clover is a specially bred cultivar. It's still clover, but yes it is large and bright red and does resemble celosia. It isn't the same as the white clover, though, and I've used crimson clover as a cover crop repeatedly without issue. It doesn't get all up in my business. Once I mow it down or let it die off in spring, it stays gone till I plant it again next fall.

Which is today, and I have PLENTY of leftovers, so I'll basically add as many packets as people wishlist. I added one tonight, but will keep stuffing envelopes to match demand. I buy it in bulk and my eyes are always bigger than my stomach, as it were.
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Sep 17, 2017 10:33 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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Sorry guys, no lily seeds this year. I went in the backyard this morning and all the stalks with pods had been knocked over and raided by squirrels. There was 1 pod left but I needed to plant mums in the front yard. By the time I got back the squirrel had taken that pod too! They've also been stealing daylily pods.

Next year I will be religious about spraying everything with Critter Ridder. It honestly never occurred to me they would go for lilies. Now I know better!

The weird thing is my yard is frequented by lots of stray cats. You would think the squirrels would be too scared to stay in my yard since the cats do catch & kill squirrels.
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Sep 17, 2017 11:03 PM CST
Name: Julie
Seattle (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Birds Plant and/or Seed Trader Hummingbirder Region: Pacific Northwest
A'ight, 5 clover packets all taped up and ready to go! I also have a lot of leftover austrian winter peas.

Both the clover and the peas are excellent winter cover crops that fix nitrogen and make great "green manure" in the spring...and the winter peas have DEEEEEELICIOUS little tendrils. They taste like peas. They are SO GOOD in salads, and they're doing their thing when everything else is sleeping. Including the bugs, so I never have to worry about pests.

The crimson clover is also good eats for honeybees and bumblebees. If you plant it as a winter crop, it blooms in the springtime and it makes life easier for bumblebee queens who are establishing their nest/colony. You can give the bees some time to forage on it, and then mow it down/turn it under and you've fed your bees and your soil (though if you turn it under before it flowers, it feeds the soil even more).
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Sep 19, 2017 1:34 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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i am setting here wondering I have one seed from my Dogwood tree (Cornus Florida white bloom , anyone interested ?
How about the Asian Pear tree seeds? ( not true plant from seeds
Granny smith green Apple tree ?
Concord wild grapes , ?
Lot of odds and ends , Unless an interest I will stay with the flowers , well and Tomatoes ,
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Sep 19, 2017 6:35 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Any idea how long the Asian pear seeds or dogwood tree seeds stay fertile? I might be interested, but I might not plant them in the spring, it might be the following year.
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Sep 19, 2017 7:19 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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I don't think pear tree seeds stay fertile very long any of them , like apple seeds ,
The dogwood is a Berry nut , probably lasts a while , I will still have the trees likely a year or two from now ,
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Sep 19, 2017 9:28 PM CST
Name: Kelli
Northern Nevada (Zone 6a)
Morning Glories Organic Gardener
Hello! Happy to join in on the fun with everyone! I'm also a big fan of the crimson clover. This past year I literally just threw them into the garden and they came up randomly. Will definitely plant those again next year. I also have seeds from white prairie clover and purple prairie clover if that's something anyone would be interested in! I haven't grow them out yet myself but I've got plenty to share.
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Sep 20, 2017 4:26 AM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
Hi Kelli!
Welcome to the swap! We are so glad to have you here. I'd be interested in the purple clover. I've got your everyday white but I like to mix things up a bit. The town never knows what I'll plant from year to year and this would make an interesting addition. Thanks for the offer. Smiling
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Sep 20, 2017 4:46 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Kelli, welcome to the swap! We're glad you're here! If you have any questions about how things work, where to post things, etc., Please don't hesitate to ask.
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Sep 20, 2017 6:57 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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Hi Kelli! Welcome!

Please feel free to go to the Seed Wants thread to list any seed that you particularly want. People are really good at trying to fill other people's wishlists here. We might not have everything you want but I'm sure you'll get some from your list!
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Sep 20, 2017 12:09 PM CST
Name: Kelli
Northern Nevada (Zone 6a)
Morning Glories Organic Gardener
Thanks everyone! I've added a wishlist. Ill be sure to keep an eye on everyone else's as well.
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Sep 21, 2017 6:19 PM CST
Name: Julie
Seattle (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Birds Plant and/or Seed Trader Hummingbirder Region: Pacific Northwest
Welcome, @KelliW!!

Here's the cape sundew opening its flower today:



It often self pollinates in the course of closing the flower, but I swished a paintbrush around in there to be sure. ;) It's supposed to provide "copious" seeds, so fingers crossed.

Oh and here's the solution hubby came up with to catch seeds!

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It cracks me up it's a big ole block of wood, but I love it. Way better than my cone of shame idea.
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Sep 21, 2017 7:28 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Julie, I love it! Tell your husband he's a genius for being a blockhead! Hilarious!
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Sep 21, 2017 8:36 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Plant and/or Seed Trader Spiders! Seed Starter Garden Procrastinator
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Does anyone in the swap live somewhere that doesn't get below 30F? If so, would they like to try growing a palm tree? I have seeds for the Ruffle Palm but it can't take frost. Some say you can grow it as a houseplant but I can't see how with those huge spines on it! I'll only offer them if someone can grow it outside.
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Sep 22, 2017 10:32 AM CST
Name: Julie
Seattle (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Birds Plant and/or Seed Trader Hummingbirder Region: Pacific Northwest
@vma4922, this should be Starship Rose Cardinal Lobelia, but I wanted to make sure it's the color you are expecting:

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They're a bit raggedy now, but at their peak:

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(this was during the eclipse so the light and color may be a bit off and I've done no color correction on either of the photos, sorry!)

I'm 99.9% on that being where I planted Starship Rose, but I also have another kind of pink whose name escapes me, I can take a photo of it when I'm out next, if it's still got blooms on it.

Edit: It's got a couple of blooms left. It's a darker pink, maybe a bit more purpley than the starship rose, which is a bright pink. If this is more what you're looking for, I can toss a bag over this guy.

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Edit again: Bwahaha, collecting seeds from this fuchsia is hilarious. I look like I've watercolor painted with my fingers!

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After I zoomed in on that second photo I realized I had seeds under my fingernails and stuck to my skin.
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Sep 22, 2017 5:10 PM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
jimard8 said: Karen , Zinna seeds are most often very adaptable , the blooms usual match descriptions , but in a free ( open garden or field) setting even tiny ones grow large , Most often the types described as shorter work in pots ,
as you said though , I'm sure that is partial lesson you have learned I have the tall 4 ft zinnia red , there is one stuck in a pot that grew a single bloom barely under 2 ft tall same seeds , same plant , all in the growing difference


Jim,
I know you thought I was ignoring you but I really was waiting on this picture to prove your point. I know that a zins size depends on what is near it as well. Once it begins to bump into another plant, depending on the type (zahara, elegans, profusions, etc) they will either cease to increase in size (zaharas, profusions) or they will run smack dab over it (most elegans types). If left out in the open, as you stated, they will get tons bigger. My problem is that this 10" hit 3'. That was a stretch. But having said that.... Here is the exact same zin growing in a crack in my porch next to the zin bed. It's 4" tall. It's just seed that fell from the 3 ft ones in the bed next to it. Now, having seen both zins, if anyone wants a chance on them, let me know. I'll list them.
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