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Sep 22, 2017 5:35 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Linda, that is very sad indeed, my condolences to you and your family. Group hug
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Sep 22, 2017 5:42 PM CST
Name: Liz Shaw
Gilbert, AZ (Sunset Zone 13) (Zone 9a)
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Just spent the afternoon with my best friend, who checked her teenager into the hospital yesterday for a suicide attempt. This world is very stressful right now.
And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. -Anaïs Nin
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Sep 22, 2017 6:05 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Good idea, Liz. I wish Connor had told someone how he felt...unfortunately, nobody had any hint of this coming. Thank you all for condolences. Male suicides are MUCH greater than females at any age. And young people are so vulnerable nowadays. It's a crazy world and just so stressful now.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Sep 23, 2017 10:06 PM CST
Name: Liz Shaw
Gilbert, AZ (Sunset Zone 13) (Zone 9a)
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I worked for 3 years in residential treatment with teens with mental health issues. A lot of it was depression, parasuicidal/suicidal behavior, and violent acting out toward family members. It is, indeed, an epidemic. Cuts across all socioeconomic classes, too.
And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. -Anaïs Nin
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Sep 24, 2017 6:27 AM CST
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Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
Southeastern PA (Zone 6b)
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I sadly have known too many young ones that ended their pain. When my son was 14 he was a pall bearer in a female classmate's funeral. Other than him becoming a father there was never a time I was prouder.
Sadly so many don't understand.
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Sep 25, 2017 2:34 PM CST
Name: Rosie
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Linda my condolences to your family. A great loss.
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Sep 29, 2017 10:24 AM CST
Name: katie
Mulege, Mexico (Baja CAliforni (Zone 11a)
Linda, I am so sorry to hear of your grandson's suicide. katie
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Sep 29, 2017 11:30 AM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Thank you. Yesterday I was in Houston for his funeral. A lot of people stood up to eulogize him, including my DD's own two children. Everybody's really going to miss Connor. Anyone who's ever felt a bit "different" from most people knows how challenging life can be when education gets more challenging.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Sep 29, 2017 11:37 AM CST
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Sep 29, 2017 10:00 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Linda, I am so sorry for your loss.
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Oct 2, 2017 3:21 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
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I haven't been on this thread for a while, but this weekend my granddaughter's stepsister's father committed suicide (both girls are 9 years old). He has suffered from depression and diabetes for years and at this point they are not telling his daughter what happened. It is his only child. He was a Christian counselor but no one had a clue what he was thinking. Prayers for his family, especially his daughter are welcome.
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Oct 2, 2017 3:30 PM CST
Name: Leon
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Ginny- Prayers and special wishes for the family.
No doubt a very sad time for everyone there.
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Oct 2, 2017 4:30 PM CST
Name: Susan
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Gentle thoughts & earnest prayers for daughter and all the family. Such a tragedy to someone who likely felt he had to carry everyone else's burdens, but didn't think he would have someone to carry his Angel
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Oct 2, 2017 5:24 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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Susan, you always have such a great way of expressing yourself, revealing a very empathetic personality. I appreciate that gift.

Ginny, how awful for that child and her family. Sometimes during low moments it is hard to see the light at the end of a long tunnel. Prayers for the entire family. Our community just had a walk as a fund raiser to raise suicide awareness
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People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Oct 2, 2017 5:40 PM CST
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Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
Southeastern PA (Zone 6b)
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Group hug Group hug Ginny, prayers for peace for all of you, especially his daughter Group hug Group hug
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Oct 2, 2017 5:58 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Group hug Sometimes it's beyond our comprehension why these things happen. So sad for the family!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Oct 2, 2017 7:30 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
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I'm just afraid someone at the funeral will say something and she'll find out from someone other than her mother. It just breaks my heart. I met him once and he seems very nice. He was not a deadbeat dad. He had heR every other weekend and some during the week too they were close. They think it might have had something to do with the meds. Shrug!
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Oct 2, 2017 7:34 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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And that is a huge problem with these meds. Everyone is different. We have made great progress but STILL in infancy
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Oct 2, 2017 7:36 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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I agree
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Oct 2, 2017 7:43 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Ginny, so very sorry.
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

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