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Dec 16, 2018 12:18 PM CST
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West Palm Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
I've noticed tiny little groups of crystals in some of my pots.


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It's not a *lot* but it definitely wasn't there before. I'm guessing it's salt accumulation from using tap water. Is it bothersome in this amount?
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Dec 16, 2018 12:23 PM CST
Name: Sue
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I don't think it's salt. Was the potting mix one that is said to require less watering?
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Dec 16, 2018 12:25 PM CST
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sooby said:I don't think it's salt. Was the potting mix one that is said to require less watering?


I've used a mix of miracle grow seed starter formula and miracle grow potting soil in all my pots. That particular picture was mostly seed starter formula.
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Dec 16, 2018 12:33 PM CST
Name: Karen
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I don't think it's salt either. My water forms a solid white mass over time in my pots. I don't have any to show you at the moment. It's usually all over, and not in a concentrated area like that. I think it might be something from one of the mixes.
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Dec 16, 2018 12:35 PM CST
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Should I try to remove it?
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Dec 16, 2018 12:48 PM CST
Name: Karen
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I don't think it's anything harmful, but you can remove it if it makes you feel better. I'd probably just leave it.
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Dec 16, 2018 1:36 PM CST
Name: Sue
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Has it done the same thing in any that were only Miracle Gro potting soil? There are several different MG potting mixes, some contain water-holding crystals. Try scraping some of them into a container of water and see if they expand. (Don't use a container you use for food or drink).
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Dec 16, 2018 4:21 PM CST
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would it be unsafe to just uh... taste it and see if it tastes salty? Blinking
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Dec 16, 2018 4:23 PM CST
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MaestroDT said:would it be unsafe to just uh... taste it and see if it tastes salty? Blinking


Well I certainly wouldn't. Salts on the surface of potting mixes look like white powder, not like your picture.
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Dec 16, 2018 4:53 PM CST
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Why in the world do you want to taste it???!
Unbelievable.
People are advising you just to leave it alone.
It is certainly no more bothersome then having a single plant in a HUGE pot!! I would think about downsizing that pot.
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Dec 16, 2018 5:03 PM CST
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BigBill said:Why in the world do you want to taste it???!
Unbelievable.
People are advising you just to leave it alone.
It is certainly no more bothersome then having a single plant in a HUGE pot!! I would think about downsizing that pot.


Kidding, man.
Pot is only 6" by the way. It's just a seedling.
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Dec 16, 2018 5:06 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Well the pot is way to big. You pot larger as the plant grows. Expecting a small plant to grow into a pot is not the best idea. Water issues often result.
I really thought that you were going to taste it. You had me.
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Dec 16, 2018 5:13 PM CST
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BigBill said:Well the pot is way to big. You pot larger as the plant grows. Expecting a small plant to grow into a pot is not the best idea. Water issues often result.
I really thought that you were going to taste it. You had me.


Hmm. I just re-potted it into that pot. What series of sizes do you usually use for potting? I have some really tiny ones that I sprouted seedlings in, some 4" disposable plastic ones from plants I've bought at the garden center, and 6" plastic ones that fit into the hanging planter I built. I'm kinda short on space since it's an apartment, but I felt like 6" was a good size.
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Dec 16, 2018 5:42 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
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I start out seedlings in a 3", move to a 4" and then transplant into the ground directly.
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Dec 16, 2018 7:55 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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BigBill said:I start out seedlings in a 3", move to a 4" and then transplant into the ground directly.


The question wasn't about how to start seeds. Infact, MaestroDT seems to be doing a good job at that.

@MaestroDT, did you rub some between your fingers? It looks like sand floating out of your mix. But, if they are bug eggs, you will know in a minute. Hilarious!
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Dec 16, 2018 9:06 PM CST
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DaisyI said:

The question wasn't about how to start seeds. Infact, MaestroDT seems to be doing a good job at that.

@MaestroDT, did you rub some between your fingers? It looks like sand floating out of your mix. But, if they are bug eggs, you will know in a minute. Hilarious!


Yeah I did. They're sparkly so it's hard to not touch. Feels gritty, very much like sand. They don't squish. I guess it could be sand or the water-retaining crystals. I've only noticed it recently and it's more prominent in the pots that have seed starting formula soil on the top layers.
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Dec 16, 2018 11:46 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Then I would suspect sand. If you put water retaining crystals in a bowl of water, they expand. Sand doesn't. Hilarious!
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Dec 17, 2018 5:57 AM CST
Name: Sue
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DaisyI said:Then I would suspect sand. If you put water retaining crystals in a bowl of water, they expand. Sand doesn't. Hilarious!


I don't know if MaestroDT actually tried putting the crystals in a bowl of water when I suggested it earlier. As Daisy says, that would narrow down the possibilities.
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Dec 17, 2018 10:18 AM CST
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West Palm Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
sooby said:

I don't know if MaestroDT actually tried putting the crystals in a bowl of water when I suggested it earlier. As Daisy says, that would narrow down the possibilities.



I did. Well, I tried. It was hard to get enough of a sample. But when I see it accumulated again, I will try again!
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