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Aug 1, 2016 1:10 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
That answer can be age-related, Pam. Most fractured teeth will ultimately become infected, either through the exposed pulp (nerve) or via the disruption of the gum-tissue. But the older one gets, and more likely there will be neither pain nor infection, unless there are health issues (such as diabetes) that make one more prone to infections.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 1, 2016 1:22 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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Thanks...tree mail your bill. I got to get this surgery break tooth fixed.
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Aug 1, 2016 1:30 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Rolling on the floor laughing I said the consultation fee was really well priced, Pam. Some will say you get what you pay for. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 1, 2016 1:31 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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Aug 1, 2016 2:00 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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drdawg said:That answer can be age-related, Pam. Most fractured teeth will ultimately become infected, either through the exposed pulp (nerve) or via the disruption of the gum-tissue. But the older one gets, and more likely there will be neither pain nor infection, unless there are health issues (such as diabetes) that make one more prone to infections.


For what it is worth, I do have a tooth that "broke" off and it has been just like the good doc said. No pain or infection. No problems. I've kept it very clean and since it can't been seen when I smile, I haven't had it "fixed". If it had caused any problems, I would have had work done on it. I have spent my dental budget maintaining my other teeth. I have to live on an either-or-budget. I am glad this one tooth didn't make me make a choice.
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Aug 1, 2016 2:28 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Thumbs up Crossing Fingers!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 1, 2016 4:13 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
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Sorry you are hurting Katie.

Inread a fellow passed from zika ..the docs said he was quite elderly but they did classify the death as zika related. This was in the USA. There isjust not enough knownn about what an infection can do long term..we know what it can do to the unborn.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 1, 2016 5:13 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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I was hearing tonight, that the 14 people who have contracted it in Miami, were all within a mile area, and most within a a very small area within that mile area. They were explaining that a mosquito never goes more than 500 feet in its life, so because of the way it is spread, it has stayed in that spot. Hope it stays there, and they can get rid of the devil mosquitos.
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Aug 1, 2016 5:33 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
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But -- not to be crass -- men and women travel far and wide to finagle
They go more than 500 feet...

The mosquito bites the infected person...those mosquitos are everywhere and the person comes to them
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 1, 2016 6:19 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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well thats a different subject Blinking ....this was just about eradicating them, and the plan. And yes, for that very reason.
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Aug 1, 2016 8:12 PM CST
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Name: Sandy B.
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LOL, Rosie... "finagle" ?? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Dr. Dawg says "satisfaction guaranteed or double your money back."

Call me crazy, but I think you all should get those broken teeth removed or fixed or whatever... Blinking However, I DO understand the "either-or budget." Years ago, when I was newly divorced, I had a tooth that really needed a crown but my dentist, knowing my situation, put in a huge filling instead. He said "it might last for 6 months or 6 years." That filling served me for about 20 years, and when it finally failed I did have a crown put on the tooth. Thank you, Dr. Bradley! (my current dentist is his daughter... Smiling )
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Aug 1, 2016 8:50 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Tallulah_B said:

What's the reason for the ground to sink like this?

New answer, still not sure.
I fixed it today, not perfect but as I had to redo parts several times when I found other parts also sinking, I finally pulled up everywhere I thought might be bad.
I found tunnels, or channels, I do not know what formed them running in three directions.

My hopefull guess is they were made by the late Mr. Mole.
I poked a rod down four holes, and it went in free over a foot in two of them.
I was going to just pour dry sand in the holes but I though if water washed down there it will wash the sand down so I put the type of cement you use to build a brick wall down the holes first, tamping it in and then poured and tamped in dry sand.
I used one half bag of cement and full tube of sand, the type you use for weight in the winter.
I tamped till the sand did not run.
I had to scrape polymeric sand off of the bricks to reset them and found out that the safer salt you use in winter still corrodes paver stones where the salt water can seep between the stones because the polymeric sand has washed away . (due to tunnels barring the edge of the brick.)
Not real badly but bad enough I replaced some anyway with others I had left over from years back.

It is now supposed to rain, so I won't sweep polymeric sand in the crack till a good dry day and then I will put glossy paver coating over the top to seal them.
Now all I have to do is do those in front of the shed but there I know I am probably dealing with old tree roots.
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Aug 1, 2016 10:50 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
gardenglory said:well thats a different subject Blinking ....this was just about eradicating them, and the plan. And yes, for that very reason.


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Yes, I was talking about eradicating them -- the mosquito not the people. 😊
--meaning as people who are infected travel ....far and wide.... Healthy uninfected mosquitos bite them -- thus converting the mosquito....

which speaks to the fact that you can spray the mosquitos in a known affected area and do them in ( altho the CDC has suggested some difficulty with spray efficacy against this resourceful asian critter ) however, since a goodly portion of folks infected are not symptomatic.... It just seems to me that spraying only known areas is underwhelming.

Not saying not to do it, but as long as people travel with infected blood...a homebody mosquito is just a small part of the treatment equation.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 2, 2016 9:04 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Even though there have been no cases of people being infected with the Zeka virus from being bitten by mosquitos here in Mississippi, there are three times the number of Zeka infected people than there are West Nile infected people. All those cases are people that have come back from known Zeka infested countries. The West Nile virus has been in our mosquito populations for years. Perhaps the Zeka virus is transmitted from mosquito to humans far more readily than the West Nile virus. I don't know.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 2, 2016 10:58 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Cat Lover Raises cows Region: Wisconsin
I am grumpy (well, not really............LOL) because our RV went out the driveway this morning and the SU and I were not in it. Rolling on the floor laughing DS#2 took it for the week to a radio controlled helicopter event in Muncie, Indiana. Austin, our GS, and our sons' friend went along. They will have a capital time, I'm sure! Our son is on the right.


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Aug 2, 2016 11:18 AM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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Par- Ta at 'the cyclone' . nodding I bet you do wish you were in it...well kinda. What a great time is waiting them it appears.
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Aug 2, 2016 3:45 PM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Cat Lover Raises cows Region: Wisconsin
He's coming back on Sunday. (unless he's quit his job and takes the rig for a grand tour of the USA..................LOL)

We can't go anywhere after he gets back because the SU has to go feed beasts for a neighbor 2x/day from the 11th till the 20th. I hinted rather broadly that it would be nice if we could go somewhere for a few days that last week in August. We'll see............he might be hired again for some corn silage harvesting work.
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Aug 2, 2016 3:49 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Zika is mostly day shift mosquitos, WNV is mostly night shift mosquitos. If an area has both, that pretty much covers 24 hours a day. I sure hope they come up with vaccines on both viruses. That's really the only solution in the long run.
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Aug 2, 2016 5:54 PM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Cat Lover Raises cows Region: Wisconsin
Here is a pic of me and Austin. He was 13 in March. I wonder if he is done growing? Rolling on the floor laughing He loves to lord it over me that he is taller.
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Aug 2, 2016 6:04 PM CST
Name: Jonna
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That is a really nice rig, shows a lot of trust to let the DS take off in it. Whistling
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