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Aug 20, 2016 6:42 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Plant and/or Seed Trader Spiders! Seed Starter Garden Procrastinator
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DND I noticed the same thing on some of the first pods I picked. I thought it was from the rain getting into open pods from thunderstorms. But the later pods are much better. Seed counts are down though. I've never gotten so many 1 seed pods. That must be from our drought because I know some of those pod parents are typically very fertile.

Spent over an hour this morning packaging up seeds. Have spinach, kale, geum, forget-me-nots & a couple others. Still more to do though!
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Aug 20, 2016 7:12 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that you're having to deal with it, too. And I have a number of low-quantity seed pods, too, but I think most of my seed pods just decided to shrivel up in the drought and not bother with any seeds. I have a number of pods that created a lot of seeds, though (particularly on my Olallie Keith Stone's Sunset daylily--that thing churns out seeds like nobody's business!) It makes some sense, though, that the squishy seeds I'm finding are due to the drought because last year I got a few pods on that same plant and the seeds were just fine. So far, though, it is only that particular daylily (Lights of Detroit) having an issue, which is odd. I might have had one or two hollow seeds out of the hundred or two hundred seeds I've pulled off of other plants this year, but that's nothing by comparison. Maybe Lights of Detroit is in a particularly bad spot? (There are others with it, though.) Or maybe its particularly susceptible to drought? Hmm...

I'm glad to hear you're getting some seeds going, I'm looking forward to seeing what you harvest! I have to ask,t hough...what is geum? Confused Or was that a typo?

I wish I could say that I'm harvesting a bunch of seeds, but the only thing I'm harvesting lately is WEEDS! Ugh. With luck, though, next year will be my year for seeds. Instead, I've here are some of the things I've been planting out for fall harvest:
Beans (most from @LittleCheryl ): Blue Lake Bush, Nina Sisco's Bird Egg, D'Aquadulce Fava (thanks @bxncbx !), dragon tongue(?) Painted Pony
Carrots: Solar Yellow, Atomic Red, Scarlet Nantes, Dragon, and 1-2 others(?)
Spinach: Bloomsdale Long-Standing
Radishes: German Giant, Watermelon, Daikon, Rat-Tail, etc... (I hope my husband is super hungry for radishes in the upcoming months, I have TONS of radish seeds I'm planting over the next several weeks. ...It's a shame they don't freeze well.)
Rutabaga - Heleanor
Lettuce/Lettuce Types - Verde de Taglio, Rainbow Chard, 'Green' Bok Choy, (possibly 'Toy Choy' and 'Baby Bok Choy', too?)
Onion/Leeks: Sweet Spanish White onion , American Flag Leek (or was it "Verde"?...I have to double-check), Cabernet onion, etc.
Cauliflower - Snowball Self-Blanching
Broccoli - Purple Peacock

...there are other things I planted, too, but those are just the varieties I remember at the moment. I made the decision to start my daylily seeds indoors instead of planting them out this month, so that afforded me 2-3 extra garden beds of space to plant for the fall. I'm sort of experimenting--and taking a risk--to see what I can get away with planting at this time of the season.
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Aug 20, 2016 7:09 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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DND, not sure about the beans but everything else should be fine for Fall planting. I need to start mine but it's too hot & humid still.

Geum is a flower that is a perennial and blooms in the Spring. I think the genus name is Avens. It's pretty and doesn't take up too much space. I put it next to some daylilies so that I have some color there before the daylilies start blooming.

I was hoping to harvest some salpiglossis seeds and some different petunias but I don't see that happening. I'm not even sure the snapdragons will be ripe in time for the swap. I must have missed some seed pods earlier in the summer. Once it got really hot I just did the bare minimum in the garden.
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Aug 21, 2016 6:41 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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I spent the better part of today organizing my daylily seeds. I've added some I think people might be interested in to the swap. I have a lot more I could add. Many are late or very late blooming crosses with at least one unregistered parent (typically from Olallie Daylilies). None of them are dark colored or red. Would anyone be interested? Also, they are all dips if that makes a difference.
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Aug 21, 2016 6:59 PM CST
California (Zone 9b)
Region: California Cat Lover Herbs Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Vegetable Grower
bxncbx said:I spent the better part of today organizing my daylily seeds. I've added some I think people might be interested in to the swap.


I loved the way you attached photos of the parents. It got me super excited about some of the crosses. You definitely have some things I've given 5 stars to. If you have any other purples, I'd probably be interested.
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Aug 21, 2016 7:22 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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Sorry, I'm out of purple unless something ripens before the swap.
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Aug 21, 2016 7:45 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Annuals Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Procrastinator Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Indiana
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I'm still waiting ona couple to ripen ,it will be real close

As for fall starting I planted the little garden Leeks and some Green Fennel today , Someties the Fennel over winter well here other times not so well , Half Hardy , like Calendula and a few around here ,

Next year ? I will do template seeds packets of paper with wax inserts , Baggies are about gone , This trade though , plastic baggies and some cellophane or wax paper inserts
Lots of ways for sure .


I Have To ASK DnD if I can add a few Bean size Sempervivum Green Wheels to my list as their a small live start .??? Not exactly a seed ,, probably take them three seasons to get to size for anyone growing them
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Aug 21, 2016 8:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Jim, If you think they can survive two-three weeks without water--and in transit--I'm willing to try it, but I cannot be held liable if they rot/mold or dry out and perish. Please make sure to include a note with the description to that affect if you do choose to go forward with it.
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Aug 21, 2016 8:23 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Annuals Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Procrastinator Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Indiana
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DnD I was thinking about that . I will take a few more days deciding , Thank You! about and for permission

Still having thought is a thing sometimes
only have a few seeds to finish
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Aug 23, 2016 12:25 PM CST
Name: Jessie Worsham
Stockbridge, GA (Zone 8a)
Northwest Georgia Daylily Society
Cat Lover Daylilies Echinacea Region: Georgia Heucheras Hostas
Hybridizer Irises
bxncbx said:Many are late or very late blooming crosses with at least one unregistered parent (typically from Olallie Daylilies). None of them are dark colored or red. Would anyone be interested? Also, they are all dips if that makes a difference.


Bring on the late diploids! That's right up my alley. Thumbs up
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Aug 23, 2016 12:42 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Plant and/or Seed Trader Spiders! Seed Starter Garden Procrastinator
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Jessie, I'm just worried because the unregistered ones don't do well in areas with hot summers. I've heard they only last a year or two before disappearing. They are not heat tolerant at all (that's even true for me). But I'll check and see if I have some that were crossed with lates I bought in North Carolina. Those plants did well even with no fertilizer and no water other than rain in a garden with no shade. That way at least you'll have a shot at getting plants that will actually do well in your climate!
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Aug 23, 2016 3:47 PM CST
Name: Jessie Worsham
Stockbridge, GA (Zone 8a)
Northwest Georgia Daylily Society
Cat Lover Daylilies Echinacea Region: Georgia Heucheras Hostas
Hybridizer Irises
Okay, good to know bxncbx. It does get very hot and dry in the summer here. And no snow, hardly even any freezing temps in winter. I just checked the list, and geez! Blinking I may run out of points before I get to the daylily seeds...
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Aug 23, 2016 7:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Jessie6162 said:And no snow, hardly even any freezing temps in winter.

I'm a little jealous.

I just checked the list, and geez! Blinking I may run out of points before I get to the daylily seeds...[/quote]
It is very hard to use all of your tickets in the swap...most people blow through all of their tickets the first several days, but it tends to slow down after that and by the end you are likely to have a lot of unused tickets. You'll be surprised how many tickets you get toward the end...

For what it's worth, some of my seed crosses might work for you. I don't know offhand that they are, for sure, good in the south, but I certainly don't have knowledge of them not working, and some of the cultivars in my garden were purchased from people down south. I'm not sure if I'll have seed from them to offer, or not, but it's possible. I, too, have a few Olallie cultivars. My Olallie Keith Stone's Sunset is an early, but Olallie Red is a long-lasting bloomer that blooms early-mid to late, I would surmise. Olallie Keith is definitely a late in my garden (blooming its head off right now when almost nothing else is.) Another late bloomer is Goose Bumps. Golden Prize is on a rebloom, I think...and I know Tuscawilla Tigress, Sound and Fury, and Little Grapette are reblooming right now. Heavenly Tiger Tails should be reblooming in the next several days, and, although I see no evidence of it right now, Heavenly Angel Ice should rebloom at some point in the upcoming weeks. If you like blooms later in the season, I might recommend looking for seeds in my list that have one or two of those as a parent(s). There should be atleast a couple...
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Aug 23, 2016 7:33 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I think the number of new tickets we get per day, increases each day.

I don't recall the "multiplier" for this swap, but here's an example:

Say we get two tickets on day One.
We might get four tickets on day Two.
And 8 on Day Three.

Or is it: 3, 4, 5, 6?

Anyway, after the first 4-6 days, you'll probably have all your 5, 4 and 3-star choices that someone else didn't get instead, and be adding to your 1 and 2-star choices. Sometimes "wish-list" activity has picked up then, too, and people add more pkts in response to specific requests.
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Aug 23, 2016 8:56 PM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
You were right the first time Rick. We get 2, then 4, then 8, then 16. Depending on what Dnd sets it at. And Dnd is so right. We do use alot on the first couple of days, but in the end, they still accumulate and you'll have more than what you know what to do with. Smiling
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Aug 23, 2016 9:10 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Plant and/or Seed Trader Spiders! Seed Starter Garden Procrastinator
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I'm definitely going to add more late dips, just don't know when.

DND, I need to look at your list again because I know there were a couple I wanted. We have opposite tastes Smiling but I really should get more dark daylilies.

I think the Olallie daylilies that are registered are okay for people in the South. It's the unregistered ones with grass-like foliage that are the problem. Mine tend to go dormant if the temps get too high. Not good if you want to see blooms! They do better in partial/morning sun unless you want to water them twice a day. I can't imagine them holding up in Georgia! But I do have crosses with sturdier plants so some of the kids should be okay anywhere.
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Aug 24, 2016 5:33 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
The multiplier for this swap is set at 3. (That could change in future swaps if our membership gets to a certain point.)

Elena - I don't have much in the way of patterns in my yard, but I do have a few pastels and, moreover, I have a bunch of near-whites that do get crossed with some of my deeply-colored varieties, so pastels are a real possibility in some mixes. I should be adding a few more soon. Hopefully there will be some pastel possibilities in the bunch that you might like.
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Aug 24, 2016 10:34 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Thanks, guys!

(I need to re-browse the swap list and get more stars in place.)
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Aug 24, 2016 10:04 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Annuals Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Procrastinator Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Indiana
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dragonflies Cottage Gardener Butterflies Birds
DnD One of the Jim's Pick X Came up last night The seeds have pushed up and all still look good like their waiting , I have a few Crosses of Hemerocallis from You Hurray! Smiling
Strange Germination year for me , Yes , i know , Redundant ) Crossing Fingers!
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Aug 26, 2016 1:41 AM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
Jimard, I think everyone's year of germination has been weird. I know mine was. I had commercial seed that wouldn't germinate, traded seed that wouldn't germinate, you name it, half of it would not germinate. I decided this year to reuse my potting soil in my gardens from things that did not germinate. Give you one wild guess how many tomato starts I'm pulling up right now.... I'm going to chalk it up to the fact that we went from 70 degrees to 90 degrees. What wants to germinate in that weather? I'd stay inside where it's cool too. Now our temps are dropping and my gardens think it's spring time!

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