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Aug 27, 2019 1:35 PM CST
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Name: Keith
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Aug 27, 2019 2:00 PM CST
Name: Tara
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Variegated Century plant maybe?
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Aug 27, 2019 2:05 PM CST
Name: Tara
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Hmmm... no
It doesn't have "teeth" does it....
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Aug 27, 2019 2:09 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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If the tips are sharp, I agree an Agave, possibly Smooth Agave (Agave de-meesteriana 'Variegata')
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Aug 27, 2019 3:26 PM CST
Name: Baja
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It does look vaguely agave-ish, but I don't think that's what it is, or at least I can't think of which specific one it could be. There are lots of similar looking plants in the family, and I know almost nothing about them, sorry. The presence of a stem and the absence of spines are important clues.
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Aug 27, 2019 3:51 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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The Smooth Agave has sharp tips but no teeth along the leaf margins.
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Aug 27, 2019 4:06 PM CST
Name: Baja
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Yes it often does, though it also may have small, greatly reduced and/or widely spaced teeth (so the name smooth agave is not accurate for many members of the species, and not one that I would use). The reason I would exclude that species is the plant does not have the characteristic urn shape with arching, recurved, guttered leaves (a sculptural form)



and it's growing a stem, which that agave does not (at least not as a distinct entity, until late in old age). I would also expect it to have more leaves at its current size. The rosette should be denser. Mainly it just doesn't look right to me for that species. I suppose all sorts of variation are possible in cultivation, but it's not ringing the right bells to me.
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Aug 27, 2019 5:07 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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@Baja_Costero, I've submitted a proposal for my photo at the database entry for Smooth Agave (Agave de-meesteriana 'Variegata') to be deleted since it does not look like this Agave. When I bought the plant it was not labeled and did not yet have the sharp tips. I thought I was purchasing a Dracaena *Blush* but when I couldn't find a match, I uploaded photos to the Plant ID Forum and someone gave the identification of Agave de-meesteriana 'Variegata'. The plant eventually attained more variegation on the leaf margins and also grew the very sharp pointy tips. I don't do well with sharp, pointy objects so I donated it to the local humane society thrift store because they sell misc. plants. Rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 27, 2019 5:14 PM CST
Name: Baja
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I don't think it is misidentified, actually, just extremely light-starved. If you're talking about this image, I think it's probably a keeper (and informative about the low light phenotype):



unless you saw it develop into something different, or are totally convinced otherwise. There's another light-starved plant here for comparison:

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Aug 27, 2019 5:25 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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LOL, I never saw it develop past the sharp pointed ends. It just didn't look like some of the other photos at that entry so I figured it wasn't that particular Agave. Shrug! I've already submitted the proposal to have it deleted and don't know if there's a way to cancel my request. *Blush*
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Aug 27, 2019 5:26 PM CST
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Name: Keith
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The edges are sharp but smooth and tip pointy. This did well in 50 F degree weather and I believe agave are cold tolerant.
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Aug 27, 2019 5:40 PM CST
Name: Baja
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Any ideas, @mcvansoest ?
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Aug 27, 2019 5:42 PM CST
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I'm intrigued when Baja is unsure. Hilarious! I did find that trunk interesting, definitely stumped me.
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Aug 27, 2019 6:04 PM CST
Name: Baja
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Lin, I declined your deletion request because I think the image is helpful... if you really want it gone, I can certainly make that happen. Smiling
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Aug 27, 2019 6:09 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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No problem, I just didn't want it to stay if it was at the wrong entry; if it's helpful, by all means, it can stay. Smiling
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Aug 27, 2019 6:20 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Aug 28, 2019 8:57 AM CST
Name: Thijs van Soest
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I do not think the plants in the original posting are Agaves. Not impossible, but to have trunk at that size and the way the leaves curl just does not seem quite right and there is no central spike - ie. the leaves grow bundled together to almost full length in a central growth spike and then they unfurl. These two plants clearly does not have that.

As to the entry of A. demeesteriana I do think Lin's picture is misidentified again for the fact that a central growth spike is absent and you can see young leaves growing in one by one and already unfurling while still very small.

There is another mis-identified plant (BarbandDave, if I remember the user name correctly) that looks like a variegated A. americana.
It is what it is!
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Aug 28, 2019 9:31 AM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Wow, this plant has stumped everyone! Blinking
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Aug 28, 2019 9:40 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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It sure is pretty and I hope you will update with additional photos as it matures!
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Aug 28, 2019 11:22 PM CST
Name: Tofi
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it resembles a variegated Yucca somehow?
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