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May 3, 2023 7:50 AM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
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I took a crummy trellis out to put in a new one , put the vines in wateri cut off too untangle. Now they're yellowing, with no roots and plant in the pot is yellowing leaves again. Seems like I'm going to lose this whole plant.
Thumb of 2023-05-03/sparrott/b6046a. These are what I cut off the stems in water this morning.
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May 3, 2023 8:34 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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I think you might have meant to call this discussion Philodendron, but your plant is a Pothos (Epipremnum.)

When Pothos leaves go all yellow like that, it's usually from lack of moisture. Shouldn't happen to cuttings in water. Can you add a pic of the cuttings in water? The mother plant?
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May 3, 2023 9:12 AM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
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They're doing it again. Since nighter before last.
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May 3, 2023 10:24 AM CST
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Were the cuttings put in water right away? Try snipping each one with a fresh cut, to the next node. Roots will form at the nodes. I try to put at least 2 nodes in water, to get plants with a lot more roots, but one will usually do for a smaller piece.

Roots forming @ nodes:


Does the pot of the mother plant have a drain hole? Has it gotten dry?

Love that trellis, and great windows!
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May 3, 2023 12:21 PM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
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Yes the cuttings were put in water right away I will snip again tomorrow when I get taller bottles. And yes the mother plant has 5 holes in that pot. Not to dry or wet. Also I don't know if it matters but all these stems are yellowing and dying from the top down.
Thank you for the compliments. I do love my sunroom.
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May 3, 2023 1:54 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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: ) I'm sure you do.

I'm out of ideas from the info here. But I'm not the only one on the site, and a Rhododendron is totally different from a Pothos, so others who have Pothos might not see this discussion. You could also ask in the aroid or houseplant forum, or in tropical, though those last folks usually have them outside in the ground.
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May 3, 2023 2:25 PM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
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I'll get the taller bottles and recut the stems tomorrow. If that doesn't help, I'll follow the rest of your ideas.Thanks so much for your time and reading further. And seeing I wrote the wrong plant. I did mean and tried to change it to philodendron but couldn't.
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May 3, 2023 2:30 PM CST
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Happy to respond!

To change the title, click "suggest a change", one of the links between the last response and the space where you type a reply. It should be self-explanatory from there.
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May 3, 2023 2:36 PM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
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Many many thanks!!
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May 3, 2023 2:57 PM CST
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I changed the subject of the thread for you. Green Grin!

Yellowing leaves can be a sign of too much or not enough water. How often are you watering? From the little that I can see in your photo of the pot, the soil of your Pothos (Epipremnum aureum) appears rather dry and I think you may under watering. When watering, I'd advise thoroughly saturating the entire soil mass until water is freely exiting the drainage holes of the pot; empty all excess water from the catch tray and in 7-10 days check for moisture again by sticking a finger an inch or so down into the soil; if it still feels moist, wait a few days and check again before adding more water. Epipremnum is fairly drought tolerant but the ideal is to try to keep the soil consistently damp throughout, not overly wet and not overly dry.

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May 4, 2023 6:32 AM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
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Thank you both for all this info. Lin, Thanks for changing the title..
I will try all of these suggestions and see what happens.
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May 4, 2023 7:32 AM CST
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Happy to respond. Best luck with it!
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May 4, 2023 8:22 AM CST
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Lengthy cuttings have a really hard time pulling enough water to stay hydrated. Remember that they have no roots, and it is only that cut end that absorbs water for the whole long vine.
These plants pretty much only grow from the tip. If you have any green tips left, I would clip them off, leaving about four sets of leaves. Pull off the lower two sets of leaves, leaving two nodes to put down in the water and two sets of leaves up in the air. You might be able to salvage some pieces this way.
Long viney cuttings tend to not do well. Try taking short, tip cuttings. If you want the long vines, leave them in the pot with their roots intact. Trim the tips to propagate and shape the mother plant. I'm not sure what you had in mind with cutting off the long vines, but the plant might also come back from the roots, if you still have the pot.
That's a nice looking trellis setup, I hope the plant comes back for you!
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May 4, 2023 8:54 AM CST
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I haven't had any trouble with Pothos cuttings up to 5 feet long. We're just guessing but I suspect the trouble with the cuttings is how it was said that the mama plant is not vigorous. From what I've seen, vigor is the key to propagating anything. Starting below that benchmark = starting with a struggle. Sometimes trying anyway is the best option and I believe that is what we have here for Sharon's plant. In that situation, I agree it's possible that they might be doing better if they had not been so long.

The pic that I put before was leafless chunks of stem. I did not leave all of that attached as very long cuttings, because that would have defeated the purpose of cutting them off - because they were naked. If the leaves fall off of a cutting, I would cut it again & redo the top. It ain't over until there's nothing green left.

This pic is a pot I put together 2 weekends ago with some Pothos and Philodendron stems. The Pothos stems had been cut about 6 weeks before. The longest Pothos of this batch is at least 4 feet.
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I was going to do an around-the-room thing with this plant, pic taken in December, but ended up having to move it. The vines starting to go across the top of the window are the cuttings shown in the new pot.
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The other pieces came from this plant. I cut them off @ the soil level. When cut, they had grown about a foot longer than when this pic was taken.
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May 4, 2023 9:25 AM CST
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Name: Sharon Parrott
TN (Zone 7a)
Tiffany, my pot is 15"across the top. My pothos was on a 2 legged PVC trellis my husband made, very tippy, couldn't untangle it enough to get it out. When I started cutting I saw how bad it looked inside.. Here I am. I'm going to try all these suggestions except the saturating till it runs, as these 2 old people, myself included, would not be able to move it in and outdoors. But I'll sit with it till I see some water in the tray
Thank you every one so much!!
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May 4, 2023 11:40 AM CST
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Bigger pots can definitely get heavy. And totally agree, wet soil is so much heavier than dry. Pothos doesn't need a giant pot, but I can understand liking the pot that the cool trellis fits into. Something to consider for the future whenever you repot could be to put an empty plastic jug in the pot to take up some space without adding any weight.

For now, you could water thoroughly, and when a time approaches when you need to move it, stop watering for a week or 2, however long it takes to dry and feel more lightweight. Getting too dry will cause leaves to turn yellow and fall off.

I never bother repotting Pothos, I just start over once in a while with new cuttings and compost the old roots. That eliminates the need for a big pot while preserving the best looking parts.
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