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Nov 28, 2021 8:32 AM CST
England, UK
Hi, we have recently purchased a property which has a large varied garden which is new to us! This plant seems to have sort of vines spreading out across the drive and I was wondering anyone could give us an idea of what it could be? There may be some other plants mixed in the photos sorry and excuse the snow! Thanks
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Nov 28, 2021 8:52 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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A bit hard to tell through all the snow, but the last several photos look like a rose.
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Nov 28, 2021 9:00 AM CST
Name: Phil
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Purty sure it's a snow plant..... Hilarious!
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Nov 28, 2021 9:03 AM CST

If it's the thorny thing, it's Blackberry (Rubus sp.): I cannot be more specific about it because there are several closely related species plus many many spontaneous hybrids between domestic cultivars and wild species.

What I can tell you is that Blackberry is easily and quickly dispersed by birds, grows very fast and that it will quickly become a major invasive (sensu stricto), especially in degraded habitats such as abandoned gardens, poorly managed woodland etc.

General rule of thumb is to eliminate it, quickly, unless you want to harvest blackberries for consumption: in that case the best solution is to have a small patch where blackberry vines can be easily managed, both to keep them tidy (and productive) and to avoid birds feasting on berries.

Blackberries are usually eliminated with large displacement (>30cc) high quality brushcutters using a specific cutting head like this: https://www.amazon.it/JOANS-Ma... They are first cut (from top to bottom) and then ground to tiny bits when on the ground. Or if you have a tractor with a cutter/shredder, you'll save yourself a lot of sweat. Hilarious!
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Nov 28, 2021 9:09 AM CST
England, UK
Thanks appreciate the replies, I believe there is a sort of climbing rose close by so perhaps so extension of that amongst snow and other things!
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Nov 28, 2021 9:39 AM CST
Name: Sally
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I thought rose from what I could see..
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Nov 28, 2021 12:20 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Or a blackberry.
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Nov 28, 2021 12:56 PM CST
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Well if'in it wus a blackberry, i'd be throwin the fertildirt to it. Ain't nuttin better than a good blackberry cobbler.
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Nov 28, 2021 3:30 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
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I think the thorns look wrong for blackberry.
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Nov 28, 2021 4:10 PM CST
Name: John
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Picture #8 is unquestionably a Rosa sp. If all the extensive growth originates from this plant, then it will be Rosa sp. also.

The pictures where the thorns are evident appear to also be Rosa sp. as well, but I can't see thorns in all the pictures. There is always the possibility that two different species/plants are represented in these snow-obscured images.

Perhaps Lolbon doesn't need to save all the runners, and could prune off a chunk (maybe a meter or two) and take it inside to comfortable photo conditions and take some good clear closeups of all the plant's parts.

Blackberries and Roses are both members of Rosaceae, both have pinnate compound leaves with alternate arrangement, both have thorns - but both have some features that can help separate if these can be observed.
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Nov 28, 2021 6:12 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Ok, I sorted out some thorns from all the snow. They do look like rose thorns.
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Nov 29, 2021 12:17 PM CST
England, UK
I definitely will have to get some snow free pictures. Thanks for all the input, really appreciated, it's all very new and as the house has been unoccupied for some time plus winter I imagine it would be hard to tell what is what even if I did know what I was looking at! We were told the previous owner used to work at a plant nursery and regularly brought home cuttings so it's a shame to see it the way it is now.
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Nov 29, 2021 3:18 PM CST
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You might find many wonderful things in spring when you can start sorting it out Hurray!
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Nov 30, 2021 9:55 AM CST
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No doubt. And somebody should recognize them here. If you want to, you can take pics of each mystery plant from several angles and distances, and make a discussion for each one. It's a little dull around here @ the moment, but plant ID'ing gets very busy during spring & summer. Enjoy your new house & gardens!
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Nov 30, 2021 12:37 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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But brush away the snow first. Hilarious!
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