San Marzano Redorta and Viva Italia are both excellant!!

FrugalGramma said:@ThommesM: So far the cukes that have performed the best for me is Market More 76.

Don't you grow onions? I had good success winter sowing them last year about this time. I ate the last of them today, sigh....We are in the same state and Zone so it will be interesting to hear about how you are doing with your garden! No potatoes? Sweet potatoes?

I'll look that variety up. I grow my cukes up a trellis as well. I thought pruning a vining vegetable was always a bad idea? I also don't remember cukes spinning off side shoots.

Onions? Well I try. I do grow green onions which do OK. The regular onions get dug up on a daily basis and seldom get large enough to call them onions. Isnt your ground frozen? How did you sow onions in frozen ground? I usually set my onions out when I plant the broccoli and cauliflower.

@donshirer I have done SMR the past two years and love them. I want to try something in addition.

I will check Jung again. I checked about three weeks ago.

Picked up seed potatoes today and hope to plant before the end of this month. Getting an earlier start. Also planting English peas soon. Onions, garlic, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts all doing great. Spinach and beets are hanging in there.

@Newyorkrita I need a recommendation from you! Figured since I'm starting shishitos might as well get a couple more peppers to start. I'm looking for a crushed red pepper variety. I grow my own peppers for this since I use so much of it. And then something like a poblano? and maybe jalepeno??? hopefully you grow these types of peppers and know of some good varieties.

Looking to place an order today with rare seeds aka baker creek. However, I lost my shopping cart cookie and have to start over with the order. Good thing I've been posting stuff here and I've kept a list on google drive so I don't have to figure out everything I wanted.

thommesM said:@Newyorkrita I need a recommendation from you! Figured since I'm starting shishitos might as well get a couple more peppers to start. I'm looking for a crushed red pepper variety. I grow my own peppers for this since I use so much of it. And then something like a poblano? and maybe jalepeno??? hopefully you grow these types of peppers and know of some good varieties.

Looking to place an order today with rare seeds aka baker creek. However, I lost my shopping cart cookie and have to start over with the order. Good thing I've been posting stuff here and I've kept a list on google drive so I don't have to figure out everything I wanted.

I don't grow anything considered hot. Can't stand hot peppers. So don't know what you should grow for fried crushed peppers and hot ones.

Since you are looking at Baker Creek do check out AJVARSKI. It is a sweet pepper but oh so good.

As far as other peppers I recommend a sweet banana type, I recommend Corbaci long thin peppers and I recommend Aji Delight which is jalanpeno sized and shaped. Rarely hot. Not supposed to be hot at all but ripe ones got hot in the heat of this past summer.

Then I very, very much loved, loved, loved Trinidad Perfume. Use it green and not heat at all. Let it get Orange and it had quite the kick to it.

Rita, when you start a 2019 pepper thread I hope you title it, "The Pepper Lady"!

Newyorkrita said:

I don't grow anything considered hot. Can't stand hot peppers. So don't know what you should grow for fried crushed peppers and hot ones.

Since you are looking at Baker Creek do check out AJVARSKI. It is a sweet pepper but oh so good.

As far as other peppers I recommend a sweet banana type, I recommend Corbaci long thin peppers and I recommend Aji Delight which is jalanpeno sized and shaped. Rarely hot. Not supposed to be hot at all but ripe ones got hot in the heat of this past summer.

Then I very, very much loved, loved, loved Trinidad Perfume. Use it green and not heat at all. Let it get Orange and it had quite the kick to it.

Ok I picked up the ajvarski as well. I looked for the Trinidad but the places I found it were out of stock. Do you have a good source for it?

FrugalGramma said:@ThommesM: I am also reading up about tilling less and I love your leaves under the oak tree mulch.

Has anyone tried undersowing with the green manures? I have been reading Elliot Coleman's books and bought some seed to undersow corn, root crops, tomatoes, beans, etc. In some experimental cases they are using only the green manures as the growing mulch and when the overwintered cover crops die back it stays as mulch ...planting directly in the cover crop. So interesting!

I planted the first time in the fall after harvesting vegetables. It was mustard. Next year it will be something else. I read that plants for green manure change well every year, because they all have different properties.

I don't know yet what I will do with this in the spring. Probably, I will bury it in the upper layer of soil at the end of April and plant new seeds for mulching. But I hope to get a good effect.

Deeby said:Rita, when you start a 2019 pepper thread I hope you title it, "The Pepper Lady"!

We just keep going talking about peppers on the

Pepper Reports-
The thread "Pepper Reports" in Vegetables and Fruit forum

thread.

thommesM said:

Ok I picked up the ajvarski as well. I looked for the Trinidad but the places I found it were out of stock. Do you have a good source for it?

It is hard to find. But I think it is an outstanding, really outstanding pepper. I cooked with it often last season.

https://awhaley.com/product/tr...

AP WHALLEY carries it.

https://www.totallytomato.com/...

Totally Tomatoes carries it.

Newyorkrita said:

It is hard to find. But I think it is an outstanding, really outstanding pepper. I cooked with it often last season.

https://awhaley.com/product/tr...

AP WHALLEY carries it.

https://www.totallytomato.com/...

Totally Tomatoes carries it.

The picture makes it look like it produces profusely!

thommesM said:


The picture makes it look like it produces profusely!

It does!! Absolutely it does.

Hot peppers grow more slowly that sweet so maybe start the seeds 2 weeks earlier than your sweet peppers. My Trinidad Perfumes were very small plants when I put them out. Took a very long long time to start to flower and set. So later than any of my other peppers. But once they start to produce they go like gangbusters. Really produce like crazy.

Newyorkrita said:

It does!! Absolutely it does.

Hot peppers grow more slowly that sweet so maybe start the seeds 2 weeks earlier than your sweet peppers. My Trinidad Perfumes were very small plants when I put them out. Took a very long long time to start to flower and set. So later than any of my other peppers. But once they start to produce they go like gangbusters. Really produce like crazy.

LOL. So are you calling this a hot pepper? Cuz if you are I'm calling you on not liking hot peppers.

Well, I checked at Jung, and it said anet Peppers unavailable starting 1-2-19.

thommesM said:

LOL. So are you calling this a hot pepper? Cuz if you are I'm calling you on not liking hot peppers.

It is supposed to be a scoville rating of 500. Not what most people call hot but what I call hot. If used green then no heat, orange it has my idea if lots of heat!!

So just now finished up my seed orders for ones I needed. No tomato seeds because I looked at my tomatoes and I had lots of seeds. So just going to use what I have.

At totally tomatoes I ordered my pepper seeds.

Biscayne Hybrid
Desperado Hybrid Pepper
Felicity Hybrid Pepper
Lola Hybrid Pepper
Pretty N Sweet Hybrid Pepper
Takara Hybrid Pepper

Biscayne is a Cubenelle. Desperado a mild anaheim-type says scoville of 500. Felicity a heatless Jalapeno. Lola a hybrid Sweet Banana. Pretty N Sweet a edible mild ornamental. Takara a hybrid Shishito.

Already have new seed packets of Mad Hatter, and Italian heirloom types of Friggitello, Lombardo, Coccia D'Oro and Dolce Di Bergamamo.

Also of course have my leftover seeds from last year.

@GreenTara18
Regarding mustard over winter. I grew red giant mustard a few years ago and found out it tasted really good so we used a lot. It will grow great in early spring and try to flower. I would think chopping up all those juicy leaves and stems would be a nice addition to the soil. I almost did it but the dark purple leaves and bright yellow flowers were too pretty.
I really must do more late summer-fall sowing this year. I have chickens now and they can eat a lot of greens.
I sowed a few asian greens several years ago. Something that looks like tatsoi has been volunteering, . I have one right now, the leaves hold up very well to weather and still look tasty today.

@newyorkrita I grew pretty n sweet last year. They lived up to their name, even in a pot.

Rita, I looked at your link for Trinidad Perfume, then saw Atris. Atris is really pretty but the flavor description says it's mild. Does that mean bland?