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Mar 21, 2024 1:55 AM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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The rose arrived yesterday at my old house so I had to run over there last night to rescue it before the freeze took it out. It's sitting in the basement for now and I haven't had time to open the box and see how it looks. Hopefully today when I get home from work.
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Mar 21, 2024 7:35 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Mar 21, 2024 9:31 AM CST
Name: Elena
Cincinnati, OH (Zone 6b)
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My DA shipment is on they way as well!! Hurray!
Amanda, if you would like to save roses not getting well after the Winter, I would recommend to prune them short, water well, add some stimulator (I am using HB101) and cover them with the pot.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:59 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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Amanda ..

Last year, I had three roses arrive in mid-March, boxed, and put them in buckets of water and covered them with a sheet. We had an unusual long cold spell that lasted three weeks with night temps in the mid-20s.

I uncovered the roses in the day time ... temps in the 40s ... and recovered them for cold night temps. They came through just fine and I was able to plant them in April.

All I could think was that roses are a lot tougher than we think they are.

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Lyn
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Mar 21, 2024 12:15 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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Amanda ...

I forgot to add that Jack Harkness wrote in one of his rose books that if your roses arrive too early to plant, to heel them in ... in other words bury them.

I think @RpR may know more about that process.

I couldn't do it here which is why I chose the hydroponic method.

Good luck.

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Lyn
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Mar 21, 2024 1:11 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Heel in is : one digs a hole/trench, 45 degree angle, or there abouts, cover three-fourths of the rose with soil (I used bagged mulch , or you could use bagged rose soil.) .
I put in root stimulator and kept moist.
If your temps get into the twenties just cover with an old sheet or some thing similar.
They can be kept this say in an old container, (old wash tub, tree ball container , etc. ) if you want to keep them in the house.)
Plant when the temp. are stable. I tip my hat to you.
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Mar 21, 2024 2:07 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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- And if your ground is frozen...?
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Mar 21, 2024 3:52 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
porkpal said: - And if your ground is frozen...?

Use a container of some sort.
I have planted roses in frozen ground, of necessity, there I buried/covered the whold rose, and then set it for growing later on.
I broke he ground with an Ice chipper/breaker.
Back then, I put the whole rose, the way it arrived and all in a container, at an angle, and covered them with mulch.

IF, I remember correctly, we had an early hard, hard freeze, and there was no way I could simply not put them in the ground.
Well, if I had waited a bit, I do remember it got unseanably warm after being unseasonably cold.
Getting old and memory was never that good when I was young, but I think it is he same year I ended up mowing lawn after a lot of snow ans sub-zero weather.

I wish I could remember the details, as I had ordered a LOT of roses, and remember well standing/kneeling out in miserable weather breaking the top of the soil. Sighing!
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Mar 21, 2024 4:35 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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Rose came in a plastic bag and is a great size!! Super impressed. Going back down to 20s next week for lows so it will stay downstairs. This weekend if I get a chance I'll grab a pot and plant it for now.

I've lost 5 roses and looks like mainly hybrid teas. So they hate better soil and lower temps. Rolling my eyes. Hilarious!

I put a pine sol bottle next to it so you get a good idea of size.

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Mar 21, 2024 7:20 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Looks really good.
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Mar 22, 2024 6:32 AM CST
Name: Eric
North central fl (Zone 9a)
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Would you all recommend that own root roses grow better than grafted? I ordered a Pope John Paul, Peace,and Chicago Peace not grafted. I would also feel jipped if the root stock took over.
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Mar 22, 2024 6:57 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Grafted roses take off and grow faster than own root roses but can be subject to suckering from the root stock. Some roses only thrive if grafted. Own root are slower to get going but will not be victims of a hostile take-over and if frozen back, will come back true to the original rose. It's a matter of personal preference.
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Mar 22, 2024 9:18 AM CST
Frisco, TX (Zone 8a)
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I'm thinking of getting "Ma Perkins" . Any experience, particularly in the South?

Also an update some roses I repotted while visiting my new granddaughter in California. Two were struggling and one I recommended for the compost heap.
They wanted me to try so I repotted with fresh soil in a slightly larger pot ( they are renters) and moved to more sun. Boy the sun is intense in California even if the temps are mild. I got them a moisture meter and we've determined they will need water every 2 days or so. They do have some individual drip heads they could add if they want. Already the one I wanted to toss has started to send leaves out. They are thrilled so I guess my stay was a success.
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Mar 22, 2024 11:48 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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@Miamiu

Miamiu said: Would you all recommend that own root roses grow better than grafted? I ordered a Pope John Paul, Peace,and Chicago Peace not grafted. I would also feel jipped if the root stock took over.


Root stock suckers are easily managed. When you see them, you just reach down as far as you can and rip them off. Don't cut them off because that stimulates new sucker growth from the site of the original sucker.

Some roses do quite well own root while others need the added vigor of a stronger root stock provided by budding. So the answer to own root vs budded really depends on the rose.

In my garden, I am gardening in glacier slurry .. in other words rock so I prefer budded roses. I do have several own root roses that have thrived for 20 years, but I was careful to grow up a larger root mass by growing them in containers before planting them in the ground.

@teacup754

When I lived in southern CA, I had 50 roses growing in containers. It's wise to re-pot the roses every couple of years because the soil can get salt build up from the fertilizers used to feed roses in containers.

I personally avoid water meters and drip systems for container roses. The easy way to manage knowing when to water is when you first plant the rose in a container, lift the side of the container and you will find out how light the pot is without any moisture. Then saturate the pot so you know how heavy it is when it has a lot of water. Then as you walk by the pot in subsequent days just lift the side of the pot to see how heavy it is. When you feel it moving towards being light, it's time to give it a good watering. You don't want the pot to dry out completely, nor do you want it to soaking wet all of time, so aim for something in the middle before you water again.

It's important to always have good drainage, so if the container is place on a hard surface, be sure to put something under the pot to allow for drainage. You don't have to buy those expensive "pot feet" to accomplish that.

Some roses suck up water quickly while others don't. As usual, it depends on the rose.

Good luck.

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Lyn
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Mar 22, 2024 5:34 PM CST

porkpal said: And there is no rose named Caesar.


actually there is a rose named Cesar (Meilland) which I used to have here until last years' drought took its toll. Yes the spelling is different, but I assume it refers to the historical person.
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Mar 22, 2024 8:51 PM CST
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
Teacup, I've grown Ma Perkins for 23 years, and it's a very nice rose. Pink FL, not very fragrant, blooms well, no disease, but I'm not in the south. I like the fact that it's from 1952.
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Mar 27, 2024 11:37 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
It's National Viagra day!
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Mar 28, 2024 7:13 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Good choice!
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Mar 28, 2024 12:37 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
Well, there wasn't a picture of my first choice, Love Potion!!! Rose (Rosa 'Love Potion')
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Mar 28, 2024 12:45 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
Today is opening day in Cincinnati With the Traditional opening day parade! This is a big deal around here! LOL!!!

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